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Eric cut a hose in the head and it SANK. whether it sank by being scuttled or not is irrelevant. It sunk.

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Eric cut a hose in the head and it SANK. whether it sank by being scuttled or not is irrelevant. It sunk.
I'm not making a huge case out of it, but I think there is a distinction between a boat that sunk on its own and one that was scuttled. The former may imply damage, the latter a volunteer abandonment.
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I'm not making a huge case out of it, but I think there is a distinction between a boat that sunk on its own and one that was scuttled. The former may imply damage, the latter a volunteer abandonment.
Insurance would probably make a huge case out of it....

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Re: Ocean baby rescue underway off Mexico

EMTs (Basic) can administer a few drugs, depending upon the rules of their jurisdiction and under medical direction. I recall practicing injections was one of the things my son did when he trained to be an EMT. What's allowed to be administered is limited, with more options typically with higher levels of training (intermediate, paramedic). For an example, here in NM EMT-basics can administer the Narcan antidote to drug users suffering a heroin/opiate overdose, and I believe New York has a pilot program now to allow their EMT-Basics to do the same. Scope of practice will vary with an EMT's locale and other circumstances.
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From what I gather from the interviews, this was not an injection. It was an oral syringe.


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I'm not making a huge case out of it, but I think there is a distinction between a boat that sunk on its own and one that was scuttled. The former may imply damage, the latter a volunteer abandonment.
When someone states that the family should repair the boat and be on their way, it makes no difference.

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When someone states that the family should repair the boat and be on their way, it makes no difference.

Context is everything.
I acknowledged that in my first reply to you. Yes, they can't fix the boat.

Context was my point. The context of dinghygoddess was they should get back out there. They had to abandon their boat to save their kid, they didn't drive it to the bottom of the ocean. Encouraging them to get back aboard is reasonable. I would not encourage them to make that passage under those circumstances again. But, as I've said before, that is exclusively their decision to make.


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I acknowledged that in my first reply to you. Yes, they can't fix the boat.

Context was my point. The context of dinghygoddess was they should get back out there. They had to abandon their boat to save their kid, they didn't drive it to the bottom of the ocean. Encouraging them to get back aboard is reasonable. I would not encourage them to make that passage under those circumstances again. But, as I've said before, that is exclusively their decision to make.
Thankfully, I don't think this family will be getting "back out there" any time soon. I mean, sorta hard to testify from the middle of the Pacific. That lawsuit and all.

I have no problem at all with cruising families. There are some great cruising families out there and the kids are having amazing upbringings.

I guess the Kaufman family could be completely misunderstood. But from what is publicly available, these folks had no business being in the middle of the Pacific with two small kids aboard. If you don't see that, then maybe you haven't read enough. It's pretty obvious.
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They should have allowed the boat to drift. They could have left the anchor light on for a good long time, and even a tracker, so the boat could be recovered.


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.....If you don't see that, then maybe you haven't read enough. It's pretty obvious.
This is the problem I have with this discussion. It makes no difference what I see or what you see (despite the condescending tone). The decision to get back out there is theirs alone to make.


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