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Thats insane,,500 gallons per minute...
Yea, your electric bill or fuel charge just to pump that water out of the boat on an annual basis would be huge.

Did the calcs, your annual electric bill would be around $20,000 per year just to keep her above the water.

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Removing ballast from inside the ship and putting it outside would actually raise the gross tonnage, not lower it. There are things you can play with to reduce your tonnage and it's possible they did that for regulatory reasons, but the ballast is unrelated.

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I had read in one of the documents the lead ballast was removed from inside the hull (and placed outside on the keel) to make more interior room for passengers.
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If someone was talking to you about the way he was going to maneuver an Hurricane and you were part of the crew that was going to do it I bet that one month later you would remember very well that talk. (snip)
That MIGHT happen, but it usually is does not. Most people cannot recite what they heard, word for word, an hour later. And in any case, your point is moot, as the person recalling what Walbridge said was NOT part of the crew.

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I had read in one of the documents the lead ballast was removed from inside the hull (and placed outside on the keel) to make more interior room for passengers.
The ship was what, 180'? And they typically had 12 passengers. When she sunk there was 16 on board. What was all the other room below used for?
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I still believe changing the boat to avoid safety inspections could be, at least, rather suspect, and at worst, criminal.

Especially if those changes, or the lack of safety equipment, safety standards contributed to the deaths of two people. Certainly makes me more suspect of the company and captain.

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The ship was what, 180'? And they typically had 12 passengers. When she sunk there was 16 on board. What was all the other room below used for?
There are never many real passengers.

If you pay money to go on for a week, say, they call you "volunteer crew".

If they take 30 Boy Scouts out the kids are crew, not passengers.

This then means they are taking many people out on an uninspected vessel.... A vessel where there may be only 3 or 4 paid crew and everyone else is unpaid or actually paying.


This matter could really blow the lid off what could be a huge safety scam.

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The ship was what, 180'? And they typically had 12 passengers. When she sunk there was 16 on board. What was all the other room below used for?
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The ship was what, 180'? And they typically had 12 passengers. When she sunk there was 16 on board. What was all the other room below used for?
Apparently they did or they had plans to take a lot of paying passengers to go on overnite trips.

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"the ships crew began gutting the interior.
We have been working with our naval architect on a new
layout for the ship’s “Tween” deck for a more functioning
galley as well as better accommodations for our sail trainees.
We will now have ten cabins opposed to the six previously
and more storage space."

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"Capt. Robin Walbridge stood on the deck of the 180-foot wooden sailing ship Bounty on the sunny afternoon of Oct. 25. The wind was so mild that the ship had motored back to harbor after a short sail. The Bounty was tied to a city pier in New London, Conn.

Walbridge told a small group that the Bounty would be leaving for St. Petersburg, Fla., that night instead of the next morning. He wanted to get a jump on a massive weather system coming from the south that forecasters were calling “historic” and that one already had dubbed “Frankenstorm.”

Walbridge formed a circle with his thumbs and index fingers, and told listeners to look at his right thumb. It represented the southeastern section of the hurricane.
“He said he wanted to get to the southeast quadrant and ride the storm out,” said New London Dockmaster Barbara Neff. No one raised objections."

Comment - not a lot of damn time for a crew member to decide to leave the ship, a couple hours at most - and with a sense of loyalty towards each other, the storm still days away and the belief that the Captain would know what to do. Well, I can see how they decided to go, with such little time to consider the danger, they stuck together and went.
I would like to point out that there is no mention of any crew members being present at this oft-refered to event. The person writing the article was not present, either, and the whole event is per the recollection of one person, a week later.

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