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Does not sound like Dock Master forced him out:
Debate rages about Bounty captain's decision to set sail | The Chronicle Herald

“He said he wanted to get to the southeast quadrant and ride the storm out,” said New London Dockmaster Barbara Neff. No one raised objections.

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"Walbridge’s friends and former crew members described him as a skilled captain who had a good plan that didn’t work because of mechanical problems. The ship lost power, which meant it had no propulsion and could not pump out water, according to the vessel’s website. The surviving crew members have not publicly detailed what happened."
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Another read from:

HMS Bounty captain Robin Walbridge remembered as quiet, humble - Tampa Bay Times

"The decision to set sail rather than remain at port is now being second-guessed.

But Bredeson, who wanted to sail on that trip but was told to join the crew in St. Petersburg instead, said Mr. Walbridge would have weighed the storm against the dangers of staying docked.

In port, a 412-ton ship or its spars could easily have been tossed into other ships or onto land, endangering other lives.

Besides, Bredeson said, "All of those conditions the Bounty has been through before."

His wife said she received an email from her husband during the storm. In the blur of events, she does not remember exactly when it arrived.

"He said they were taking on water and they might have to abandon ship," she said.

She said her husband probably died trying to help Christian, a distant granddaughter of original Bounty mutineer Fletcher Christian and a new sailor.

That would be just like Mr. Walbridge, she believes — the most experienced sailor on board risking his life to save a rookie."
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Does not sound like Dock Master forced him out:
Debate rages about Bounty captain's decision to set sail | The Chronicle Herald

“He said he wanted to get to the southeast quadrant and ride the storm out,” said New London Dockmaster Barbara Neff. No one raised objections.

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Yes, it seems clear and in fact if it was otherwise we would have heard already about that.

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I thought this was interesting (Blog from LA article). Definitely a case where life is stranger than fiction:

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HMS Bounty sinking to be investigated; victim was 'very concerned' - latimes.com

Bonnie Ember at 3:19 PM November 03, 2012
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Casey, was the rest of that post yours, or quoted from Bonnie Ember (whoever that is)? It has several rather glaring historical errors.

"A minor point at such a moment" (anybody get the connection?)

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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

From my understanding, the ship was supposed to be in St. Petersburg, along with the Picton Castle. Right?

The captain said he wanted to get to the southeast quadrant of hurricane Sandy.

Where would the ship have to be to make the southeast quadrant of hurricane Sandy? The storm was huge. So to get to that point, wouldn't Walbridge have to take the ship considerably out of the way, on his trip to St. Petersburg, to reach the southeast quadrant of the storm? Once you've squeezed past the western edge, why would you circle around the southern edge, then head east, to get to the southeast quadrant if your destination was St. Petersburg?

Am I missing something here?
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Casey, was the rest of that post yours, or quoted from Bonnie Ember (whoever that is)? It has several rather glaring historical errors.

"A minor point at such a moment" (anybody get the connection?)
No, honestly. Can you explain?

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From my understanding, the ship was supposed to be in St. Petersburg, along with the Picton Castle. Right?

The captain said he wanted to get to the southeast quadrant of hurricane Sandy.

Where would the ship have to be to make the southeast quadrant of hurricane Sandy? The storm was huge. So to get to that point, wouldn't Walbridge have to take the ship considerably out of the way, on his trip to St. Petersburg, to reach the southeast quadrant of the storm? Once you've squeezed past the western edge, why would you circle around the southern edge, then head east, to get to the southeast quadrant if your destination was St. Petersburg?

Am I missing something here?
I was thinking another similar article said he was trying to get to the southwest of the eye of the huricane, which makes more sense- I am trying to find that article now. Perhaps news reporters get their directions mixed up.
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From my understanding, the ship was supposed to be in St. Petersburg, along with the Picton Castle. Right?

The captain said he wanted to get to the southeast quadrant of hurricane Sandy.

Where would the ship have to be to make the southeast quadrant of hurricane Sandy? The storm was huge. So to get to that point, wouldn't Walbridge have to take the ship considerably out of the way, on his trip to St. Petersburg, to reach the southeast quadrant of the storm? Once you've squeezed past the western edge, why would you circle around the southern edge, then head east, to get to the southeast quadrant if your destination was St. Petersburg?

Am I missing something here?
I cannot find anything that says southwest, which seems to be the place you would want to be right? Southwest you would have aft winds and following seas, Southeast you would have head winds and beating into the seas, something I doubt the Bounty could go into.

Comments, I am confused also.
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I think the Southeast v Southwest thing was just someone's misstatement, maybe even the Captains.

I do believe he meant to say he would sail into a hurricane. His crew confirmed he had done it before in their GMA interview.


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I guess the Captains of those boats, I mean fragile timber relics, also called tall ships, know a lot more than you about that.

At least 4 captains of tall ships come forward saying that they did not understand the Bounty Captain decision to sail away from port to face an Hurricane. One of them had the ship on the same port where Bounty was and the ship did not suffer any damage with the bad weather.
Please name the ship you're talking about, the tall ship that was in New London at the time. I have been reading this thread (and the linked news media articles) carefully, hence just catching up. I have not seen any such report. The Picton Castle captain, who you have quoted about 37 times (exageration intentional), was in NOT in the same port. He wasn't even in the same country.

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