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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

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Sal,

I guess I'm just trying to find some explanation how they came to the decision on the 27th to change course from their most easterly position since sailing south, to head SW across the eventual path of the storm.
That would be something the crew would know for sure.

Anyway, this is an issue that I think got very confused due to the SW/SE confusion. Its clear from their path that they weren't making any serious effort to get East of the storm, but some initially said they were. It seems most likely that they were just heading south until they got a better idea of where they needed to be to catch the Western side. As it turned out, the storm headed West, so they needed to make the most dramatic adjustment. That's my theory.
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I agree, media is probably wrong at least 25% of the time. The fact (I'll use that term losely) is that it does not seem anyone was asking, telling, ordering, or sugesting that the Bounty go to sea and to leave the harbor or dock.
The only thing we know about that issue is that we don't know. Nobody responsible for the Port of New London has made any public statements that I'm aware of, and the quote from Barbara Neff does nothing to change that.
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Bonnie Ember posted a note in the forum under the news paper article, I have no idea what, if any connection she may have to Bounty. I just thought her opinion was interesting, even if some information may not be completely correct. It is kind of mysterious how the Bounty goes down with a direct decendent of the leader of the mutiny on the original ship.
Oh, OK, thanks for the explanation.
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The only thing we know about that issue is that we don't know. Nobody responsible for the Port of New London has made any public statements that I'm aware of, and the quote from Barbara Neff does nothing to change that.
Well if they were trying to evacuate the port, you would think Barbara Neff would be knowledgable to that information. It does not seem she knew anything about a "port evacuation" which leads me to think there was none. And by the tone of the article, it seems the setting of sail of Bounty was the Capt decision and 100% voluntary.

You could be right, maybe the Port of New London ordered him out.
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

So many coloured and different sized fonts... I am so stoend right now and i just wan t paalou top jkeep porsting
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Probably has sunk, but the Capt (as far as I know) was wearing a survial suit, should still be floating (I'll try not to get too morbid here), and CG cannot find him. It is a big ocean out there.
Here is the story I saw.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A11ET20121102
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As it turned out, the storm headed East,
I think you mean WEST !
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Jesus you could have asked!!!! What a mess and that is so simple:
I really don't think I'm the only one who doesn't think it's "simple". It's confusing, at best, not to mention annoying. Without any notation what your different colors, font styels, etc, mean, how could anybody know?

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You could and should be more careful before saying nonsense about me. Here is the post were I originally quoted the source that said that, of course in color, as usual ( pg 34, post 335):
Paolo, I'm not trying to push your buttons, but it's not nonsense. Saying "several newspapers reported" is NOT citing a source.

Example: The Captain of the Picton Castle REMAINED in Lunenberg, Nova Scotia, due to Sandy. Source: Chronicle Herald, October 29, Halifax, NS, CanadaPicton Castle captain questions Bounty being at sea during storm | The Chronicle Herald

THAT is citing a source.
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You could be right, maybe the Port of New London ordered him out.
Casey, I was never really suggesting that they did. I was only pointing out the unreliability of the mainstream media to even ask the right person, and even when they do, they often don't ask the right questions. I've never been to New London, but it took less than a minute to find out who the Harbormaster is.

I personally don't think the Bounty was asked or ordered to leave port, but it was a question raised that hasn't been answered, AFAIK.
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Here's an interesting statement in that article:
"The Bounty's three masts were visible for some time above the waves but from Tuesday night, the Coast Guard has been unable to locate the ship, Patterson said. The water depth where Bounty sank is around 13,000 feet, he said." (my emphasis)

So, technically, yes, it's possible she's still floating around out there somewhere.. like a shipping container... As I see it, that she has sunk is not, technically, a known fact at this time.

I remember reading stories of old English naval timber hulks (old warships without masts) being disposed of at sea initially refusing to sink after losing their ballast.
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