HMS Bounty in trouble... - Page 96 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Out There > Vessels Lost, Missing, or in Danger
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree718Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #951  
Old 11-26-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 8,970
Thanks: 10
Thanked 135 Times in 121 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Why are we arguing about water bottles and nav pods in a thread about how stupid the Bounty was? Let's get to 1000 posts on topic.
PCP and chef2sail like this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #952  
Old 11-26-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,549
Thanks: 0
Thanked 120 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 4
JonEisberg will become famous soon enough
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
I'm really perplexed why some appear to so strenuously reject the simple notion that today's technology might have been a contributing factor to an incident such as that involving RULE 62...
With both the Bounty and Rule 62 it had been cloudy for days so neither would have had a position for days using your technology.

The old stuff just doesn't hack it in the modern world.
Congrats, you have simultaneously missed my point entirely, and yet unwittingly supported it completely... (grin)

My point exactly: Without the ability to fix a precise position for days, any sane/prudent captain aboard RULE 62 would never have closed so closely upon the treacherous lee shore represented by the Abacos... instead, being comparatively uncertain of his position, he likely would have chosen to make for the 40-mile wide opening of NE Providence Channel - marked by some of the most powerful lighthouses in the Bahamas - rather than shooting for an unlit opening in a reef 75 meters wide, in the dark...

Last edited by JonEisberg; 11-26-2012 at 02:47 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #953  
Old 11-26-2012
chef2sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 6,966
Thanks: 29
Thanked 54 Times in 50 Posts
Rep Power: 7
chef2sail will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to chef2sail
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

He shouldnt have made either decision, he should have had the experience to heave to and tough it out, Like everyone else in the 1500 did.


Advancing toward the Bahamas Bank and shallow water created large seas and was a mistake.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
___________________________
S/V Haleakala (Hawaiian for" House of the Sun")
C&C 35 MKIII Hull # 76
Parkville, Maryland
(photos by Joe McCary)
Charter member of the Chesapeake Lion posse

Our blog-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


“Sailing is just the bottom line, like adding up the score in bridge. My real interest is in the tremendous game of life.”- Dennis Conner
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #954  
Old 11-26-2012
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,845
Thanks: 4
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 4
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Recently saw where ACR (one of the largest maker of Epirbs) has a "Survivor Site" on there web page. You become a "ACR Survivor" after you have activated your ACR Epirb in a real emergency. They give you a new Epirb as part of your free membership. Read the "Survivor" stories here:

http://www.acrartex.com/survivors/

On this site you can get the details by putting your cursor on the survivors name and clicking:
http://www.acrartex.com/survivors/stories/

Last edited by casey1999; 11-26-2012 at 03:02 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #955  
Old 11-26-2012
MarkofSeaLife's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,228
Thanks: 28
Thanked 57 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkofSeaLife is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Congrats, you have simultaneously missed my point entirely, and yet unwittingly supported it completely... (grin)
No I have picked you for the stupidity of your 'argument' that to be lost at sea is a good thing.
__________________
Sea Life
Notes on a Circumnavigation:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #956  
Old 11-26-2012
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,845
Thanks: 4
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 4
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

I thought this was interesting from the ACR site:

ACR Electronics Inc - ACR and ARTEX BeaconsFoster Stanback Rescue / ACR and ARTEX Beacons

"When I arrived they told me that the base commander wanted to talk to me. I thought, "Oh no, here we go. He's going to chew me out for sinking a boat and involving dozens of people in an expensive rescue operation." Soon a smiling young man came out and listened attentively as I divulged all the details of our ordeal. When I was finished, he said, "Well, we just want to thank you for making our job a whole lot easier." My three friends, who were taken further north to the air station at LAX, asked the rescue swimmer how often he had had to go out at night on rescue operations. He replied that, surprisingly, such missions were quite common, but we were the first actual "survivors" he had pulled out of the water in seven years. People typically lose consciousness in 1 to 2 hours in 50-60 degree water. Our wetsuits would perhaps have given us a few more hours, but there was no way we would have made the ten mile swim to the shore of Catalina.

The only things that saved us were the ACR Survival Craft Radio and the ResQLink personal locator beacon. Yes, even the radio still did its job after I had dislodged the battery, thanks to an amazing new system developed by the Coast Guard called Rescue 21. Any distress call on the emergency channel is picked up by various receiving towers and immediately recorded on a computer. A program then calculates the exact coordinates of the source of the transmission using triangulation. The Coast Guard personnel were able to pinpoint exactly where we were when I made our brief May Day call. They then overlaid the position being reported by the ResQLink and got a perfect match. Thanks to these amazing electronic devices and the dedication and professionalism of the Coast Guard, we were the lucky participants in a "textbook rescue.""

Seems in addition to life jackets and maybe a life raft, a wet suit or survival suit for each crew may be a good idea.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #957  
Old 11-26-2012
JulieMor's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 853
Thanks: 47
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 4
JulieMor is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Let's get to 1000 posts on topic.
Okay. 23 to go...
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #958  
Old 11-26-2012
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,845
Thanks: 4
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 4
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Once the Coast Guard report is out, we should be able to get to 2,000 in no time while we discuss the reports findings.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #959  
Old 11-26-2012
therapy23's Avatar
Back to just the Jon boat
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 911
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 8
therapy23 is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Why are we arguing about water bottles and nav pods in a thread about how stupid the Bounty was? Let's get to 1000 posts on topic.
That was answered after my post.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #960  
Old 11-26-2012
therapy23's Avatar
Back to just the Jon boat
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 911
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 8
therapy23 is on a distinguished road
Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Why are we arguing about water bottles and nav pods in a thread about how stupid the Bounty was? Let's get to 1000 posts on topic.
Or off........
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rhodes Bounty ll white rabbit Introduce Yourself 3 07-13-2014 05:00 AM
New Member - Hardin 45 ( 44 voyager bounty ) Bianchi Introduce Yourself 9 01-29-2011 09:33 PM
HELP!! , Need move a boat NC to WA (Rhodes Bounty II, 40'10 x 28' x 10'3" x 5'9") sailandoar General Discussion (sailing related) 1 08-23-2006 01:11 PM
Bounty Windjammer Spectacle (Boothbay Register) NewsReader News Feeds 0 06-23-2006 03:15 PM
April 28, 1789, Aboard the HMS Bounty: NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 04-28-2006 01:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:45 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.