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Re: Will the real PHRF please stand up

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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
The Wiki quote does not appear to come from a PHRF Base rating sheet for the 34/36 WK (which this boat appears to be). It appears to come from someone's website and as others have said, the 144 rating is for the original C&C 34 and not this boat.

102 sounds like a more appropriate base rating for this boat. It should be noted that in general these boats but especially the wing keel versions do not sail well to their ratings. PHRF ratings are based on a specific set of courses sailing in the prevailing breeze for that region. Because many reqions can have a wide ranges of wind conditions throughout the racing season, PHRF awards boats that are good in a broad range of conditions and these boats did not offer a broad enough range of capabilities to be competitive.

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
The problem, of course, is that no PHRF is actually real. ie upwind vs downwind, vs loaded up, etc, etc, etc.
While the actual ability to sail to a rating may vary with the items that you mentioned, PHRF ratings are supposed to be based on a boat loaded in a specific manner, fully and properly prepped, and sailing a specific course stipulated course in the prevailing conditions. In that regard, there is a real and valid PHRF for that a properly prepared and loaded boat.

What no current scoring rule can do is to adjust the rating for each individual boat in the specific sailing conditions it is racing in on each leg; although SYRF (Sailing Yacht Research Foundation) is trying to come up with a way to do that.

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