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Re: new Bene 53

Interesting to see who buys these and how are the used? Interior looks like a cruiser albeit a modern design which is the new look these days... Deck and rig look more like a max like a Wally... very sleek... but a racer wouldn't have a dink garage... and this seems to have a single owner's cabin forward... no aft cabin or crew cabins as far as I can tell.

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For me it is a racer/cruiser not a full time cruiser. it is the boat for the guy that wants to race in a distance race with a crew and have a bit of comfort during the race, park the boat and stay ashore during their stay. at home it is a good entertainment boat. just like the Santa Cruz 50's and 52's,62's and 70's of the 1980's it is as big inside as the 70 footers but a only 53'so there is an amount of economy to it. rigging, hardware and sails will cost a lot less then a 70 foot boat. it is a beautiful boat for what it was designed to do. if you are buying this boat you are not buying the right boat if you need a bimini, that is what the umbrellas at the yacht club are for.

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Right, what Overboard said. If I were to race this boat in a distance race, and I would LOVE to, I would leave the dink back at the slip, as other racers would, I'm sure. Now if only I had the SKILL to adequately race this boat...
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Re: new Bene 53

Offshore racing often has a cruiser class. These may be designed to be at the top of that game, not the top the whole game.

I also know a lot of people that will spend a lot of money, just to go one knot faster. Maybe just a half knot.


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No. It's a racing boat.

The cruising series is called Oceanis. This racing series is called First.

This boat is almost double the price of the equivalent length cruising beneteau.


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Wow......so is it a cruising boat?
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Re: new Bene 53

Boat has a bunch of attributes which recall different uses... so it looks a bit like a bit of cruising and racing... short distance and long distance, day sailer eye candy. The design makes me think it needs to be sparse... anything not part of THAT design will look out of place. Definitely reminds me of modernist interior architecture some some exterior architecture as well. It's neat... probably too neat!

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This could appear in this post about the new Bene or in the change with aging post that SanderO started.

Different classes in racing open up the world to everyone. Where this Bene fits could be a testament to that. Different strokes for different folks.

Look at The Chicago to Mackinac Race this year. Peter Thornton has been a competitor for years. For the last bunch of years his entry was a carbon fibre Volvo 70 that last year I think won one of the first three to finish the race and in that class.

Peter is I believe over 80 and decided that a little comfort was in order...but still wanted to be competitive. This years entry was a wood epoxy Bruce King Ketch built in 1978 and completely redone. This is a 105', 60+ ton beauty. Beautiful woodwork, skylight, Teak Bathtub, and a fireplace just some of the attributes. This years class was part of Cruisers, which left on Friday afternoon before the big Saturday start. Finished the 300+ miles in 47 hours. The only boats that finished in less time ( yes, different days) were boats like TP 52's.

The boat is worth looking up online. Absoutely beautiful. My understanding is that some of the professional crew thought they were sailing on the Volvo this year and were more than a little surprised ...but pretty comfortable!

So, the new Bene will fit somewhere on the scale, and probably in more than one class dependent on how set up. We can say that Mr. Thornton found a way to adapt with style. The boats name is Whitehawk.
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It does look quick (nice looking underbody, mast is tall as hell, etc.) but still. Not enough winches, rig doesn't look tunable (no obvious way to adjust the backstay or even one of those crazy mast elevators), no inhaulers or way to twing down a code 0... (Of course, all we've got are renderings, maybe the bit and bobs will be available at launch.)

Other folks have said this looks like a performance cruiser for rich folks. Nothing wrong with that, but it appears that "First Yacht" means something very different than "First." (Especially given the current lineup.)
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It does look quick (nice looking underbody, mast is tall as hell, etc.) but still. Not enough winches, rig doesn't look tunable (no obvious way to adjust the backstay or even one of those crazy mast elevators), no inhaulers or way to twing down a code 0... (Of course, all we've got are renderings, maybe the bit and bobs will be available at launch.)

Other folks have said this looks like a performance cruiser for rich folks. Nothing wrong with that, but it appears that "First Yacht" means something very different than "First." (Especially given the current lineup.)
Beneteau is showing the basic boat at a given price for that boat as equipped. it is intended as a shorthanded racer as many of the manufactures are doing also. it is just getting harder to find the big crew for the older designs. the boat is set up to eliminate all the other strings that are needed on the older designs. From the basic boat it can be set up to optimize for racing or cruising at slight additional cost. adding a bunch of racing stuff would mean that you need a bigger crew to use it. the boat is equipped with hydraulic backstay as standard equipment as seen in the pictures. more winches are not really needed but could be added if there is a need
"Yacht First" I think they are saying it is a Yacht that is fast and can be raced with success. the money today is in the bigger designs not the cheaper high volume boats because there are no high volume of boat sales in todays market.
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