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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

Considering the boat is 36 years old, and has not fallen appart under the feet of the previous owner(s), maybe it is not a fatal problem. My take: You can work on the blisters. They may, or may not reappear. You should assume that they will, and the price should reflect this. Even with blisters, the V32 would be at the top of my list for a boat that size. A V32 without blisters would be just as good, with whipped cream on top!
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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

There is lots of conlficting info regarding blisters on Valiant boats. Depending on the builder and time period it can be severe. It is odd that the blisters are above the waterline, which MIGHT be a clue that it was very bad on the hull and has been repaired there. I am not sure if the 32s had the same issues as some of the 40's. It is worth some more research as to the original builder build date and prior repairs.
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It is odd that the blisters are above the waterline, which MIGHT be a clue that it was very bad on the hull and has been repaired there.
Why would they repair the blisters on the hull and not the ones on the cabin? Run out of money? Not a priority? Maybe, but not likely.
I find the surveyor's opinion regarding resin additives on the deck piece to be valid, as it checks out with what is known about blisters in these boats.

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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

You can also ask the designer of this boat, Bob Perry, what he thinks of these blisters. He comes to this forum often. User name bob perry. Might be a lot more knowledgeable than any of us on this issue.

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I will wait and see if Bob Perry comes an this forum as there are many conflicting opinions, also wait for my surveyors opinion, which I am paying for. This does not mean that I do not value your inputs, in fact quite the reverse. The boat was built in 1979, and at the price seems to be a bargain. It has obviously completed a trans Atlantic crossing and I understand that the current owner has covered many miles in the Med, so it can't be all bad.
The decks do not seem to have many blisters, more dirty brown marks in the gelcoat, which while not pleasant, do not seem to be points of weakness.
Does anyone have a link to the boatyard in Texas which specialises in restoring Valiants? Maybe I can get some further information from them.
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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

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I will wait and see if Bob Perry comes an this forum as there are many conflicting opinions, also wait for my surveyors opinion, which I am paying for. This does not mean that I do not value your inputs, in fact quite the reverse. The boat was built in 1979, and at the price seems to be a bargain. It has obviously completed a trans Atlantic crossing and I understand that the current owner has covered many miles in the Med, so it can't be all bad.
The decks do not seem to have many blisters, more dirty brown marks in the gelcoat, which while not pleasant, do not seem to be points of weakness.
Does anyone have a link to the boatyard in Texas which specialises in restoring Valiants? Maybe I can get some further information from them.
http://valiantsailboats.com/mac/macindex.htm

They were also the last to make them, thought I don't think they were involved in the ones with the issues. That was perhaps Uniflight?
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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

Petey - seriously - walk. There are too many great boats out there.
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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

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They were also the last to make them, thought I don't think they were involved in the ones with the issues. That was perhaps Uniflight?
It was Uniflite and it was (IIRC) only for a couple or so years of their production.

As I recall, Bob had a very high opinion of the Texas builder. I thought it was a bit weird that a builder of such a heavy duty offshore cruiser was based on a Texas lake.

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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

Yes the boat was built by Uniflite, and the problem years were from the late 1970's to the early 1980's. Apparently there were many lawsuits due to this problem, so Uniflite was sold to Chriscraft, about 1984, but they did not want to get involved in sailboat manufacture, so the moulds were sold on to the boatbuilder in Texas, who had been a Uniflite distributor.
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Re: Valiant 32 problem with Fire Retardant in resin.

If the blisters are cosmetic (likely) and you can live with them then these boats can be an excellent deal. You get a lot more boat for your money than a similar size/quality boat. These are heavily built boats with modern underbody. They sail extremely well both up and down wind.

I don't think you can fix the blisters for any reasonable amount of money. If you can't live with them then don't buy it.

Establishing a fair price is the hardest part. There are brokers in the U.S. that specialize in these. I suspect Rogue Wave would be happy to discuss the Valiant market and offer advice even though this boat may not be their listing.

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