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Re: Boat Recommendations

I think Stumbles recommendations of the Benes is good. I have been very impressed with my recent experience with them. Since you liked sailing the J boats. You might consider a J92 or J105. A bit spartan below but okay for the occasional overnights as you mentioned. They are a lot of fun to sail and easier to short or single hand to their potential.

I race on a Beneteau 36.7 that has 3 cabins below refrigeration and is often single handed by its owner. It is fast and fun to sail.

Since you mentioned liking traditional boats, going in the complete opposite direction Crealock or Pacific Seacraft 34. Or something inbetween like a Tartan 3500. With a boat like this you might even get your wife to spend the weekend on the boat. With your budget you options are pretty wide open.

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Don't get me wrong I love the J-105, but it would be tricky to rig it for single handed sailing. Doable of course, but the boat is really meant to be sailed with a crew and it shows. On the flip side once it's done it is worlds more fun to sail than a Beneteau

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And the interior of the J105 is not a place I would want to spend a week long cruise. A J109 is a much better choice in that size range.
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Re: Boat Recommendations

I really appreciate the recommendations so far. The 361 and C&C 99 have piqued my interest. Let me throw out a few I was thinking about casually to garner some additional responses:

j97 (is it available in the US?)
Harbor 30
Beneteau Oceanis 31

and my sentimental favorite - Marshall 22 (I don't have any catboat experience but I love the looks, concept and price)

Let me know what you think!

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You are all over the map. I can't conceive of three more different boats that the Bene 361, C&C 99, and the Marshall 22. You really need to look at a few boats and narrow down what you want.
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You are all over the map.
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You are right - I am.

I consider myself on the lip of a large funnel. I don't know how long it will take the lake house to sell but I expect this buying process to take about a year or so. My heart says either a Ford F-250 4x4 pickup with large wheels (Island Packet, Pacific Seacraft, etc) or Porsche Boxster (J80). My head is saying Honda Minivan (Beneteau, Jenneau, Catalina, etc) and my wife is saying go get the boat of your dreams. I guess I posed the question to determine if there is a Porsche Macan of sailboats that would offer me close to j boat performance with comfortable accommodations and a salty appearance for my proposed budget. I couldn't really seem to find anything and wanted to see if others knew of something I'm missing. My reason for posting now was to try to maximize the two days I'll be spending in Annapolis.

I'll probably be keeping to boat in Charleston or nearby. What I have learned from my past ownership experience is that: I don't like to trailer, that I used to judge a boat from the interior pictures - now I fully understand I'll be spending 90+% of my time in the cockpit and that for my purposes deck layout is important, shallow draft is nice but not essential, I loved my CD25 but dealing with a full keel at the dock with a ripping tide was not fun, my CD25 took a good bit of wind to move her, my H212 was way too tender for the family, and while my C30 was a great boat at the time it was just not as satisfying to sail as the j24 or j80, I don't have the time or aptitude for a project and I like newerish as opposed to olderish. So I think what I am looking for is something that has the accommodations of a Beneteau, the performance and underbody of a J Boat and the exterior of a Tartan all for a reasonable price! Sigh.

If I owned a house or condo at the coast I would buy a used j80 and be done with it - or maybe a nice j100 or AE28 if I was feeling rich. The need to stay overnight on occasion complicates things a bit from my perspective. A house at the coast isn't in the cards for another 10 years or so. I need something that should carry me until then and hopefully will continue to satisfy me for many years beyond that.

I threw the Marshall out there because: I think they are pretty, they seem to be ruggedly built, I think it would be easy to daysail with the family, while I've never been on one I did sit in a Sandpiper cockpit once and thought it was super comfortable, the centerboard means I could explore rivers and creeks and there is something to be said from a practical standpoint of owning a boat that is just 22 feet in length. Plus, they don't seem terribly expensive. I'm not sure lacking standing headroom would make me happy if I do cruise her and the thought of gybing in a blow does make me a bit weak in the knees.

For what I need a C30 or 30ish Beneteau would work fine. I was hoping to get feedback on other designs that would offer either more performance and/or a saltier appearance that would still fit my proposed budget and need to single hand from time to time.

My wife is being super supportive but I think I get one shot at this!

I hope this explains some of my schizophrenia!

I do appreciate all that folks have already contributed.

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Andy,

Now were getting somewhere. With that list of wants, we need to change the paradise a bit. Instead of the beneteau or J-boat go take a look at a Dragonfly 1000 or the Corsair F-28. By switching to a trimaran you loose a good bit of livability, but get rocket ship like speed without needing to go full on Spartan racer set up. The retractable centerboard gives you a usable draft of a foot or so when up, and while 6' standing headroom isn't great it will do for most of us.

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Andy:

More details and my post #2 still seems valid. You liked sailing a J24 and J80. Why are you even thinking about a Bene 361 or Marshall catboat or Island Packet? You can indeed get the fun of sailing a J24 and have an interior that you will be comfortable in for overnights. Boats like the J30 (and its many competitors) did that 30 years ago. Boats like the J32, J110, J109, C&C99, C&C110, etc. will give you all the performance you could ask for and still serve as a vacation cabin.
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Just food for thought but how old/agile are you?

If you can sail a dinghy, how about two boats? You could then open up the idea of your dream bigger traditional boat, Crealocks, or a Passport 40 suitable for weekends on the coast or week trips and double handing. Then a Harbor 20 or any number of daysailors you could dry sail, dock or moor.

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Take a look at Beneteau fist series. They are well made, fast enough and have comfortable interiors.

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