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Re: Multihull Popularity and Interesting Designs

I'm only aware of the Superior 54 by him, and that was definitely daggerboard, unless he also designed a special version of it.

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That's the design. There was one for sale in the Bahamas a month or so ago, it definitely had mini keels but don't remember daggerboards. It was used as a day charter boat.
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Found it.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1994...ahamas/Bahamas
Keels and daggerboards.
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Again, I would argue that the main purpose of those keels is protection and not foils.

Personally, I like the concept and would prefer a dagger boat to use it. I never have a good feeling seeing rudders and saildrives several feet below the hull on many dagger boats. The extra drag of short keels doesn't appear to be so bad.

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Again, I would argue that the main purpose of those keels is protection and not foils.



Personally, I like the concept and would prefer a dagger boat to use it. I never have a good feeling seeing rudders and saildrives several feet below the hull on many dagger boats. The extra drag of short keels doesn't appear to be so bad.



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One difference I've begun to notice, between mono-hulls and multi-hulls, is multi hull owners are very sensitive and defensive of their choice. Maybe it's because mono-hull owners are unenlightened and misinformed, but it sure seems to run deeper than that.

It's typical of human club dynamics. Identify a minority (and yes, multis are still a global minority, which is different from being the fastest growing segment) and that minority is often on the look out for discrimination or criticism. In fact, some personalities are drawn to the minority, because they love being different and arguing about it. Kind of like a NY Jet's or Met's fan.


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One difference I've begun to notice, between mono-hulls and multi-hulls, is multi hull owners are very sensitive and defensive of their choice. Maybe it's because mono-hull owners are unenlightened and misinformed, but it sure seems to run deeper than that.

It's typical of human club dynamics. Identify a minority (and yes, multis are still a global minority, which is different from being the fastest growing segment) and that minority is often on the look out for discrimination or criticism. In fact, some personalities are drawn to the minority, because they love being different and arguing about it. Kind of like a NY Jet's or Met's fan.
The problem with your argument is that SMJ and I are the only actual multihull owners posting on this thread (if you exclude beach cats). Maybe PDQ32 (Drew, I don't remember his current avatar name) also posted here. If you would like to point out specific posts of ours that are sensitive and defensive, that might be more helpful. Both of us have attempted to add knowledge and experience to specific points and have mostly stayed out of the silly stuff. Both of us have owned monohulls, and neither of us have damned them in any way.

Using your logic and direction, it is typical human dynamics for a majority to view an emerging minority as a threat and to suppress that minority using false information and sweeping generalization.

But that doesn't sound like you, does it? So why are you projecting a similar line of reasoning on others? Please save the pop psychology for another forum. If you have an issue with Jeff H's thread here, and the specific topics he wished discussed, either stay out of it or take it up with him.

Speaking of interesting pop psychology, who starts, and participates in, the troll threads like capsizing multis, and who stays completely out of them?

Interesting indeed. Hope you kept your day job.

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Re: Multihull Popularity and Interesting Designs

Good link. Thanks.
Can see why for cruising fixed keels may have benefits for cats but would think in a tri thereís no other reasonable choice than a board. Iíve never seen a centerboard on a decent sized tri only a daggerboard. Is there a reason?

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I’ve never seen a centerboard on a decent sized tri only a daggerboard. Is there a reason?
Probably interior space intrusion and the supporting structure can't be balanced against a bulkhead well, so requires additional engineering. Daggers are also higher performance, and usually lighter and simpler to build and maintain.

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Can see why for cruising fixed keels may have benefits for cats but would think in a tri thereís no other reasonable choice than a board. Iíve never seen a centerboard on a decent sized tri only a daggerboard. Is there a reason?


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