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Interesting that some of the owners of cruising cats consider themselves to be the only real multi hull owners on this thread. Quite the club mentality. I didn't know this thread was specific to cruising cats only.
If that was addressed to me, I didn't say or imply any such thing. When "multihull owners" was used to make a point, I pointed out that if beach cat owners were excluded, there were only two of us posting here. I excluded beach cats, and I guess by default power cats, because the posting was pointedly at cruising cat owners.

If you feel slighted by this, I apologize, but do warn that you will be slapped with the "sensitive" and "defensive" labels, as I was.

The thread topic is specifically multihull cruising boats, btw. Check the OP's first post.

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Edit: If you were implying some slight of mine to trimarans, I didn't mean to do that either. To my knowledge, we haven't had a cruising trimaran owner post here yet, and all the discussion has been around cruising catamarans. Cruising tri's are even a minority among the multihull minority. If the Rapido is set aside, along with smaller tris, the Neel and largest Dragonfly is the only current production cruising tri I'm aware of.

Edit to my edit: I also didn't mean to slight proas or quadramarans. Or monomarans.

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Re: Multihull Popularity and Interesting Designs

OK gents... the ad homs are just not acceptable. Please by all means have opinions about anything boating informed by your personal experience and media exposure... All fine. I don't feel compelled to support any sub set... and I don't identify with any subset. I am only an expert on MY boat and MY experience... everything else is my OPINION. I think most of the old salts... here are intelligent enough to understand pros and cons especially when they are evidence based... as distinguished from opinion based.

Cats are of little interest to me in the sense of a "next boat". There will be no next boat. I have little to no interest in chartering a boat anywhere... and so mono or cat charters are just observations from living in the Caribe for some years on Shiva.

I am interested in all technical developments which could be of use to me whether on cats or monos... and simply expanding my knowledge base from reading what the members write.

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Beyond the Jim Brown boats are there any current tri designs or tris in production that are center boards?
Would note a friend who sells Corsair in Wareham MA loaned us one for a week. They are a totally blast and quite seaworthy but at 37’ perhaps not everyones idea of a live aboard.it had a daggerboard. So think Mark is right as regards series built boats so the question is asked to include one offs as well.
As a side question. I’ve sailed a B40 on several passages and in light air the board knocked with no apparent rhythm. It was very annoying. Is this much of an issue with daggerboards in modern multis?

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I think you misunderstood. My apology was not directed to you.

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Beyond the Jim Brown boats are there any current tri designs or tris in production that are center boards?
Would note a friend who sells Corsair in Wareham MA loaned us one for a week. They are a totally blast and quite seaworthy but at 37í perhaps not everyones idea of a live aboard.it had a daggerboard. So think Mark is right as regards series built boats so the question is asked to include one offs as well.
As a side question. Iíve sailed a B40 on several passages and in light air the board knocked with no apparent rhythm. It was very annoying. Is this much of an issue with daggerboards in modern multis?

The old Telstar 28 have center boards. Also appears the Dragonfly trimarans have centerboards.

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Iíve sailed a B40 on several passages and in light air the board knocked with no apparent rhythm. It was very annoying. Is this much of an issue with daggerboards in modern multis?
SMJ has more experience with dagger cats than I do, but for the ones I have been on, some do and some don't. I think it has more to do with their specific position in the trunk at any time, and when pulled up (at anchor, for example), they often have a chock built in or ready to put in to prevent clunking. When down underway, they are pretty loaded up, so that keeps them from moving much. I imagine design precision and the actual shapes matter too.

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SMJ has more experience with dagger cats than I do, but for the ones I have been on, some do and some don't. I think it has more to do with their specific position in the trunk at any time, and when pulled up (at anchor, for example), they often have a chock built in or ready to put in to prevent clunking. When down underway, they are pretty loaded up, so that keeps them from moving much. I imagine design precision and the actual shapes matter too.



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I have about the same experience as you, only sailed them a few times but never owned one........yet[emoji16]


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I have about the same experience as you, only sailed them a few times but never owned one........yet[emoji16]
You told me you were done buying any more catamarans two boats ago.

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I think you misunderstood. My apology was not directed to you.
I must have missed a page. Is this exchange in this thread somewhere?

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You told me you were done buying any more catamarans two boats ago.



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I think I told you that after we purchased this boat, and I stand by that quote. We have owned this cat for 2.5 years, almost a record for us! We really like this cat and it was super affordable for us and Iím getting to old and worn out to take on another project. Though I did hear of a nice one that may be hitting the market soon.......[emoji38]


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