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BWAAAHAAAHAAA! I never noticed that. Definitely a "multi-purpose coastal cruiser" (as per their website).

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That was the deal breaker for me. Took the G4 right off my list of cruising cats. I have enough trouble with those in my living room...


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You can see the helmsman (Mischa) in the cap with his feet on those sheeting pedals...



This is right before the crash. The "mainsheet" is fully hydraulic. They had a release valve on it that was too small and couldn't release fast enough. He says the new valve is 3X the size of the original. Lesson learned.

Here is the video of Mischa talking about what happened...

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Though it's about 4 years old now, I found an interesting CW article:

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40 of the Best Catamarans and Trimarans. Ever.
Move over, monohulls. Check out Cruising World's list of the 40 multihulls that most significantly changed the boat-design game.
Look what's on the list!



And you just HAVE to love this one...


Piver Lodestar 35

And number 1 of all time at that point...


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Isn't that kind of unlucky? I thought the Fiji to NZ was an off-wind trip, but the return from NZ to Fiji was the basher?

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Actually the strategy is to make as much easting as possible leaving the islands..with the trade winds...fair winds until about 30 South..then it is a real crap shoot. Sub tropical weather here is the fastest changing weather anywhere. Always hated the return trip to New Zealand. Easy to see the 3- 4 days forecast...but after that not so easy. Leaving New Zealand back to the islands you know that just getting North to 30 South will leave the cold and crap wx behind. We hove to twice on trips back to NZ...

Some interesting reading on the Queens Birthday storm here:
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To me the real issue has to be the crews apparent failure to realize just what the change in the wind meant as they moved out of the lee of the island. Velocity and direction are important. This event is not just an example of poor boat handling but poor fundamental seamanship.
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To me the real issue has to be the crews apparent failure to realize just what the change in the wind meant as they moved out of the lee of the island. Velocity and direction are important. This event is not just an example of poor boat handling but poor fundamental seamanship.
I think you're being a bit too harsh in that last sentence. You have to remember that FUJIN was in full-on race mode, intentionally pushing the boat as hard as they could within their perceived limits. I think you could somewhat make a case for poor boat handling in their not being prepared - or being too slow - to blow the sheets as they came out of that wind shadow. But I think saying that it's an example of poor fundamental seamanship is going a bit far. This is racing. It's very different from "prudent" and conservative risk-reduction you typically associate with "good seamanship" on the cruising end of things.

As you saw in the photo I posted above, they push this boat very hard in races - to the point that at times get a hull flying. And they build their "seamanship" around that approach. And this is why you have things like the ISAF regs in racing where it is understood that you're not being conservative with the boat - so you have to be FAR more conservative with all the means of safety around you (gear, training, etc.). In that regard, this is far better fundamental seamanship than virtually any cruiser out there will have. Again - it's just a very different animal...and why these examples of capsize have literally nothing to do with cruising cats.
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There’s some really new and inventive thinking in offerings coming up.
Friend in Barrington has just started a new company. Target is mom and pop or small family interested in voyaging and cruising not charter. Price point 800k-1m.
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Diesel electric propulsion. Diesel only invocated in absence of sufficient alt. energy. Charges through hydroelectric from sail drives as well as walk on solar.
Central helm inside saloon with all lines lead to that position. Can be sailed solo!! Panels above helm are glass and can be retracted.
Cutting edge design. Narrow 3’ at water line wave cutting hulls. Magnificent queen berth staterooms(one each hul), head, shower in each hull with additional one viable single passage berth in each hull. Daggerboards don’t interfere with interior. Skedges protect running gear and add directional stability. Horizon portion improves ride/performance.
CF/foam panel construction. Interesting to see how structural elements are nested on panels to avoid waste.
Anyone interested in a for real ocean going cruiser in the 45’ range should hold off a bit. There’s amazing boats coming down the pike.

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There’s some really new and inventive thinking in offerings coming up.
Friend in Barrington has just started a new company. Target is mom and pop or small family interested in voyaging and cruising not charter. Price point 800k-1m.
Designer Schoilling
Builder Steve Brody
Innovative features
Diesel electric propulsion. Diesel only invocated in absence of sufficient alt. energy. Charges through hydroelectric from sail drives as well as walk on solar.
Central helm inside saloon with all lines lead to that position. Can be sailed solo!! Panels above helm are glass and can be retracted.
Cutting edge design. Narrow 3’ at water line wave cutting hulls. Magnificent queen berth staterooms(one each hul), head, shower in each hull with additional one viable single passage berth in each hull. Daggerboards don’t interfere with interior. Skedges protect running gear and add directional stability. Horizon portion improves ride/performance.
CF/foam panel construction. Interesting to see how structural elements are nested on panels to avoid waste.
Anyone interested in a for real ocean going cruiser in the 45’ range should hold off a bit. There’s amazing boats coming down the pike.
This is out of the price range for most sailors.... maybe for middle aged people who liquidate their home and put it into a boat...
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This is out of the price range for most sailors.... maybe for middle aged people who liquidate their home and put it into a boat...
I'm interested in why you keep bringing issues like this up in this discussion. What does that have to do with the popularity and/or interest of multis?
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