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And on the other end of the spectrum - here's how to break a cat...even while "coastal cruising"...


..put up all the canvass possible in very strong winds and crank everything down as tight as you can. Oh SNAP!

I honestly think they were flying that windward hull. No joke. I have a very strong hunch these guys were mono sailors and had no clue what they were doing.

"Hold my beer and let's dip a rail!"

Unbelievable. Even so, the boat kept them safe. And they have 2 engines to get them home.
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Here is a great summation of cat vs. mono ocean sailing from a delivery/crew guy who had only done passages on monos before taking this Outremer 45 across.


More substantiation of what I've been hearing from most who do passages on these boats after sailing monos. And I don't even think Outremer paid this guy off.

BTW - the guy is Ryan Helling. And to show that he knows a thing or two about offshore sailing and racing...

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Thank you Chall - I believe I will...

Here's an interesting look at very similar sea-states and how a cat and mono handle them while crossing the Atlantic. Both use very similar dual headsails..

A Lagoon 440...

And a Beneteau O46 (with an ex-VOR racer)
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This new video just came out from SLV. It's a fantastic example of 2 people sailing an Outremer 45 in all kinds of conditions. See for yourself...


I honestly think there is a significant safety factor on cats simply in the crew not being as stressed or fatigued on passages (lack of sleep always takes its toll, yes - but the levels are way lower here). Look at her interview at about 4:25 as for what the boat is like in rough seas.

Another important factor in this is that these two are still learning how to sail this 45' cat. And the boat is doing very, very well to meet them and keep them safe...pretty easily actually. Riley's email at 11:15 talks about their hitting 22 knots! surfing (though he talks earlier about why he wasn't concerned with it), and a mild gybe at 17 knots - with him asking Outremer's advice on boat/sail handling at these speeds. Basically, he's saying the boat has handled it well and he hasn't been concerned - and just wonders if he should be. It will be great to hear back what he is told. This is really good stuff.

And this is why I'm going cat. No-brainer.
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There we go. I think that was most of my part of the multi conversation from the Oyster thread. I deleted all my posts there as I move them here. So, although it's a bummer that it's only half the conversation, I trust everyone is now pleased and we can get back to discussing the coolest boats on the ocean as far as I'm concerned.

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As promised, two pictures of the cats I'm playing with.. A Prout 38 and a Lagoon 38. Of course a proper sea going boat in the background....
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I have sailed and raced beach cats all my life. The first big cat I sailed on was Polynesian Concept with Buddy Ebsen and then several more but I just can't relax when the sheets are cleated off. I have been on several monos when the mast head has touched the water and never even gave it a second thought. they always came back up and got us home.
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.....Are there any reasonably sized cats with a centerline master berth that you can approach from the side, like a human and not like a dog climbing into it's dog house? I know centerlines don't make good sea berths, but we all spend hundreds of times more nights at anchor than overnight at sea. My current is the first boat I didn't have to climb in from the end and it's a real game changer.
Geesh, feels like a DDoS attack of posts above. Was that necessary?

I'm reposting my query above, as it's been buried underneath a pile of dust. I think a reasonably sized cat would be 50ft or less. Not many couples cruising anything bigger than that.


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We'll stick with our 45 year old mono for the following reasons; speed, soft ride, load carrying capability and self rescue feature of a ballasted hull. My wife does not like the motion of multi's and while I like some of the big cats I'm afraid our sailing style would lead us to a Leopard sort of ending.
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Re: Multihull Popularity and Interesting Designs

My hunch is the biggest driver for the interest in cats is the real estate and the lack of heeling which appeals to the high heeled ladies. Many others "rationalize" the benefits. That's OK.

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