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don't listen to hellosailor, he's "ass and full of crap"

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Exactly. Carry on.
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If everyone would just take my advice there'd be a lot less arguing here!
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Had a A4 for 10 years on my Ranger 33. Lots of motoring on Lake Ontario and she has been as far as Florida with previous owner. Only problem I had was hard starting but after I installed electronic ignition she fired up every time and never failed. Mine never came with an oil filter either so I added an aftermarket one. Thought about upgrading to a diesel also but with the cost involved and the fact she never let me down, why do it. Now I have a 4108 in our 44 Roberts offshore and I do feel safer without gasoline on board but never had an incident with the A4 so I would say if you maintain her she is one darn good engine
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If everyone would just take my advice there'd be a lot less arguing here!
And we'd all be on barges like yours or even worse, Catalinas..




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There's a A4 in our Pearson Ariel, now as a POI this is the only Boat and Boat engine I've had experience with, how ever I have worked on plenty of flat head tractor and utility engines, I wouldn't even be considering repowering when this A4 dies if it were not for the fact they (A4's) are no longer made, all the parts you buy will be used, and a 2,500 dollar rebuild is over half way to a new engine that will fit in the existing engine beds.

That all said, the A4 hasn't failed me yet, am I going to repower when the time comes, yes, am I happy with what I have, yes. Now the reverse gear thats another story for another thread . . .
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How is this any different from a diesel of that era having issues with low-sulphur variants of diesel fuel available, and in many cases required today?
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After reading all of the replies there is one more reason to stay away from the A4 if you can avoid it. The differrent additives that are being used with gas are causing several problems with gas engines that were designed and built for a very different gasoline than what is being sold today.
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"all the parts you buy will be used"

this is why we all have differing opinions...

within 10 minutes I found every part for a full rebuild... new.

now when i'm rebuilding my chevy 350 or ford 302, I don't mind buying rebuilt heads, carbs, turned cranks, or working on the car, rebuilt trannies, rear ends, brake calipers, so why would I mind rebuilt parts on my a-4?

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"all the parts you buy will be used"
I don't mind buying rebuilt heads, carbs, turned cranks, or working on the car, rebuilt trannies, rear ends, brake calipers, so why would I mind rebuilt parts on my a-4?
I think It's because there are so many machine shops with ample experience working on the GM/Ford/Mopar that the prices are kept reasonable, where as the A4's have a handful of specialists, and make the "rebuilt parts" outrageous granted were now comparing apples(marine) and oranges(land). So when that machineing is done incorrectly it will cost 4 times as much.

The parts are out there . . . whooa X-files throwback.
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