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If you have some boats in mind with easily replaceable keel bolts and are robust please advise.
Buy a Beneteau with an iron keel, replacing the bolts is a standard maintenance procedure, and they'll sell you a kit.

Any boat with an lead keel will have J-shaped studs embedded in the lead and require a heck of a lot more work to replace them in a way that is as strong as the original.

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"sailboats that are in unusual situations"
An expensive road trip with the trailer just to lay eyes on it, and find out maybe what you have. And a similar long trip home once you find out what it really is or isn't. Not that there aren't pots of gold at the end of the rainbow, but "unusual" boats usually mean someone sin't mentioning how extensive the damages are. Estate sales of half-completed project boats, all sorts of oddities that usually, once you price them out, will not be bargains.
But good luck with the hunt.
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In general you are correct about bargain hunting, which I am not really doing. I would rather buy a complete, ready to go boat. However, there are gems out there worth getting. When your digging for gold you got to get your hands dirty.
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Beneteau with Iron keels have easily replaceable keel bolts, that's the information I was looking for. Thanks. Any others?
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Re: Looking to purchase- advice

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Beneteau with Iron keels have easily replaceable keel bolts, that's the information I was looking for. Thanks. Any others?
Here is the thing, with boats there are no silver bullets or always true statements. Like most things about boats every decision is a compromise.
Not all Beneteaus have iron keels
Not all Beneteaus with iron keels have easily replaceable keel bolts.
Iron keels typically come with some mix of less stability, poorer motion comfort and/or poorer sailing performance.
Not all lead keels have J-Bolts
Not all boats with lead Keels and J-bolts have keel bolts that are hard to replace. (You drill new holes and nut pockets just the way lead keels were built before J-bolts were invented, and if you go back with Monel nuts and bolts you will never have to replace them again)
Boats with iron keels that may have steel keel bolts that may be easier and cheaper to replace, typically need their keel
bolts replaced on a more frequent basis (10-to 15 years) vs lead keels with stainless steel bolts(25 to 40 years)
Boats with lead keels and monel keel bolts, pretty much never need their keel bolts replaced.
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Head spinning, can't think, where did I leave my beer? Was it monel keel with lead bolts or was it lead keel with candy canes? Has anybody seen the door? That light at the end of the tunnel is starting to look like an encapsulated lead keel again. There I was shopping for a Beneteau and now I am back to a Cal34. The one thing I really want to avoid is manufactured obsolescence. Repair-ability is as important to me as functionality. Forget the keel, I'm gonna buy a Corsair Marine F27 trimaran!
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Airfares are cheap, only drive the trailer out after the deal's closed.

A mini-survey by a trusted experienced sailor if not a pro, would be ideal, prior to committing to airfare.

These overheads just need to be factored in if you're casting your net wider in search of "the one" and have exhausted more local options.
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Head spinning, can't think, where did I leave my beer? Was it monel keel with lead bolts or was it lead keel with candy canes? Has anybody seen the door? That light at the end of the tunnel is starting to look like an encapsulated lead keel again. There I was shopping for a Beneteau and now I am back to a Cal34. The one thing I really want to avoid is manufactured obsolescence. Repair-ability is as important to me as functionality. Forget the keel, I'm gonna buy a Corsair Marine F27 trimaran!

I'm sorry, but it's nutzo to block out the world's largest producer of boats because you have heard some story from - not even a friend but - an acquaintance.

An oyster sank when it's keel fell off. Wipe all Oysters off the list?
Catalinas have sunk. Wipe them out?
Hunters sink. Chop them off?
Cape Dories have caught fire... Scrap them?

What vehicle do you drive? Power steering can fail so do you only drive a vehicle without power steering?

Your fears do not stack up against any risk analysis. Look for a boat you and your family will like to be aboard and have family fun time.

BTW I can not see family fun time including a narrow boat parked in the back yard.

Sorry to be critical.

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No worries, just a little humor to accentuate a first world problem.
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Seaward 32 RK.. and you can launch it and retrieve it yourself, can use a motorboat trailer, and step the mast yourself.

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