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We are very interested in this 47 Robert Perry. The story from the broker is this: The owners want to sell because wifey got pregnant. Okay, we can buy that. So, we start to get serious about going down to look at it--just a long day trip for us from Ventura unless we want to have her hauled out. Recent survey from May 2019 but the boat was not hauled out. The catch is this: the owners aren't available. They're off traveling. So, for liability reasons the broker can't move the boat to the haul out, we can't either. We'd have to hire a captain? If this couple is strapped for money, parking it in Ensenada while selling it, why are they traveling and not available to show the boat and take it to haul out and go for a sea trial if it gets to that point. Sounds sketchy. What is the consensus of all you experts out there?
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We are very interested in this 47 Robert Perry. The story from the broker is this: The owners want to sell because wifey got pregnant. Okay, we can buy that. So, we start to get serious about going down to look at it--just a long day trip for us from Ventura unless we want to have her hauled out. Recent survey from May 2019 but the boat was not hauled out. The catch is this: the owners aren't available. They're off traveling. So, for liability reasons the broker can't move the boat to the haul out, we can't either. We'd have to hire a captain? If this couple is strapped for money, parking it in Ensenada while selling it, why are they traveling and not available to show the boat and take it to haul out and go for a sea trial if it gets to that point. Sounds sketchy. What is the consensus of all you experts out there?
Look elsewhere. It may stay available until they have the time to do the right thing.
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Thanks--that's my gut feeling also.
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Are you just looking for the first time at this Boat? You seem to be skipping a few steps, nobody hauls the Boat on first look, you look, everything you see looks good, you discuss an offer contingent with haul and acceptable survey, then the purchasing details. For all this to happen on the first trip is expecting too much. Forgive me if I missed something in your question.
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Thanks for the feedback. Yes, this would be our first look at it--been talking for over two weeks. Also, this would be our first purchase of a boat that's not in American waters. So many details about the purchase are intimidating. But, the boat is what we're looking for at a price we can manage. Just to ease our angst we'll have to go look even if we don't buy. We have the survey that was done in May of 2019, talked to the surveyor himself, who confirmed the boat is sound in all areas he inspected but could not vouch for the hull. We will take your feedback as an important point in our expectations. Thank you again for the reality check.
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Re: 47 Robert Perry in Ensenada

The red flag to me is the partial survey. It is curious that they recently had it surveyed but not hauled out. That survey will be interesting but not definitive. That they are off traveling may just say they're not interested in the boat anymore and want the broker to do the work.

I'd say make your walk through and decide if you want to make an offer contingent on the haul out.
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Are you just looking for the first time at this Boat? You seem to be skipping a few steps, nobody hauls the Boat on first look, you look, everything you see looks good, you discuss an offer contingent with haul and acceptable survey, then the purchasing details. For all this to happen on the first trip is expecting too much. Forgive me if I missed something in your question.
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I think also you might be reading too much into it. Sure the owners might be lazy. You are not buying them though, you're buying the boat....

Where one man sees a problem, another sees an opportunity.

Has it occurred to you that if they are too busy/couldn't be bothered to haul her, it might also mean they might be open to a quick sale and a low offer to big rid of the responsibility?

Have a look at her, make an offer subject to an out of haul survey and if you have to pay to have a captain move it price that into your offer.
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We are very interested in this 47 Robert Perry. The story from the broker is this: The owners want to sell because wifey got pregnant.......The catch is this: the owners aren't available. They're off traveling. So, for liability reasons the broker can't move the boat to the haul out, we can't either.
I think a lot of boats get put on the market because of a major life change in the owner's life. In the later end of life, lots of boats get put on the market because the owner gets too old to sail it. I imagine lots of owners also sell because it doesn't fit with their young growing family lifestyle.

I can see a lot of situations in which a young mother to be would say to her husband, "Honey, would you please sell that boat. We don't have time to do anything with it, and I'm not going to feel like sailing with the baby. We can always get a boat later when the kids are older".

Then they get caught up in the excitement of the baby, fixing up the nursery, traveling to visit relatives, before the baby comes. The boat becomes the least important thing in their life, at that point.

Before I got married, I rode my vintage motorcycle on long trips, and did a lot of backpacking. The motorcycle needed some work done on it and money was needed for the kids. The motorcycle sat in the garage for years. I bought the largest family cabin tent I've ever owned, and backpacking trips became car camping trips, at state parks, in whatever camping site was closest to the playground and the shower house.

You could find yourself in a great bargain and negotiating position. I can almost hear my wife saying, "Honey, just take the man's offer. We don't have time for you to be going back and forth to the marina to deal with that boat. And you still haven't painted the nursery like you said you would".

I'd do my own examination of the boat, and make a lowball offer contingent on a satisfactory completion of the survey upon haul out.
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