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Re: What do you think about a pilothouse sailboat

The Coronet Elvstrom 38 is a sailing boat with a centre cockpit and wheelhouse. It sails as well as any 1975 design of sailing boat with fin keel and skeg rudder. It sails to windward fine. Just don't expect it to point as high as a modern bendy-toy.

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Thanks for your reply. You see my previous boats were an ecume de mer and a dufour 29. Now i was looking at a dehler 34 and a canados 37, when i came across with the 1982 coronet elvstrom 38, which gave me the impression of a strong worthy boat even though completely different from i had in mind. My wish is to sail the Greek islands living in the boat. The weather here is hot and the wind usually plenty. I love sailing and despise motoring. So any comments-advise from everybody who has a sailing or traveling experience with the boat, are more than welcome. I do not expect it to sail as fast as cruiser-racer, but can i sail it on low wind, or is it to havy or to boxy to to do that ?
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I am living aboard my CE38 in the Algarve. It is not normally so hot as in Greece. When not sailing, I keep a tarp over the boom and wheelhouse to keep most of the sunshine out. The boat is well insulated as it is intended for the Baltic, so that keeps the heat in or out as the case may be.
It sails in light winds as well as any other 1975 design. Try to get a demo sail on the one that you have seen.

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Thank you for your answers. My next step will be to sail the boat. You keep pointing out that the boat sails as well as any other 1975 design. I would be more than happy. if it could sail half as well as some of early Scandinavian designs, i can think of, like Swans or Hans Christian!!
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I've been told that my designs , down to 31 feet , look better with the pilot house than without it. I am embarrassed about how long I sat out in the rain without a pilot house before I clued in. I wouldn't be without one. In the inverted position , the buoyancy of the pilot house is the equivalent of adding thousands of pounds to the keel, in terms of ultimate stability. On a steel boat ,the pilot house can easily be as strong as the rest of the boat

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According to the DSV, the yardstick of the Elvstroem Coronet 38 is 101, which is slower than any of the Dehler 34's (89 to 100).
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What do we call the Gulf line of boats? Pilothouse? I had been interested in the Gulf 29 at one time until I realized that as soon as one steps and sits in the "pilothouse" one is too low to see out which seems to defeat the purpose of the pilothouse. True you can set up a seat and pilot from inside but anyone in a settee is well below window level a none starter for me should I ever get serious about moving to a pilothouse.
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Re: What do you think about a pilothouse sailboat

Hey, first post here from the new guy. I'm researching the North Sea 34 along with other pilothouses for Puget Sound but the North Sea shares the top of the list so far. I see that JDR22 had one. Will he or anyone get back to me with any info, pics, details about the boat? Feel free to PM me. I'm curious how they sail, their construction, leaks, interior layout, quality, etc. One thing we like about them is the layout where people can relax in the pilothouse and easily see out instead of going down in a dark hole plus the fin keel.
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Don't know anything about them, but I found this, Boats - North Sea 34
which appears to be some kind of owners association.

I like pilot house boats, I don't understand why there aren't more of them, considering the elaborate dodgers and canvas enclosures we see on so many boats.
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Re: What do you think about a pilothouse sailboat

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Hey, first post here from the new guy. I'm researching the North Sea 34 along with other pilothouses for Puget Sound but the North Sea shares the top of the list so far. I see that JDR22 had one. Will he or anyone get back to me with any info, pics, details about the boat? Feel free to PM me. I'm curious how they sail, their construction, leaks, interior layout, quality, etc. One thing we like about them is the layout where people can relax in the pilothouse and easily see out instead of going down in a dark hole plus the fin keel.
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Quite a few North Sea 34s hereabouts (BC). I do think they did a decent job of the aesthetics for the type in that size range. From what I understand they sail reasonably well. JRD22 liked his quite a bit and when they upsized they went to a 'conceptual' big sister in the Brewer 40.

Beaver Glass in Richmond built them, I believe, along with Sharks (for a time) and the rugged little North Sea 26 Trawler line. They certainly seem like solid boats but I do not have any first hand knowledge..

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