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Ted Brewer Corten

Wondering if anyone is familiar with the Ted Brewer designed Corten? a 40' (50'LOA) Schooner. I am looking at one but wonder how it behaves. It was designed by Ted Brewer and Built by "Motts of San Francisco" (never heard of them. Right now we are in a 32' narrow beam ketch. Our use is primarily for Family cruising as well as some charter work. I like the Old Look of her as it appeals to the nostalgia with the Charter clients but I do want a boat that handles well and is good for cruising. Any comments appreciated.
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You know I nearly posted that being newb you couldn't post pics and links then in a duh moment realised you've been around for some time. So it begs the question ... whytf not back up your enquiry with some information that might clue others in. Some pics or links is not asking too much is it ?

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1989 Ted Brewer Corten 40 Used Boats For Sale - Frelighsburg, Quebec

Know nothing about them myself though I like Brewer and many of his designs. This one does look a bit long in the tooth.

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Yeah I should have posted pics to the Ted Brewer site. The particular boat you posted is not the one one I am looking at but the same layout and hull. I am looking at one that is the Gaff rigged schooner version and a much better price. It also has a port mounted prop. Not sure how that effects performanceIt has a recent survey and is appraised at "above average condition" so I feel confident about that (I almost bought this boat 4 years ago). The problem is I am not in a position to buy it right now and would have to do some "creative financing" and creative wife convincing to afford it. At the same time I can probably pick it up for 1/2 what it sold for 2 years ago and what it is appraised for so it is tempting. Can't post pictures as the website I had with pictures last time it was for sale are not available anymore but it looks Just like this one. Big question is how does it sail. It looks great but I don't want a total pig.

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I don't know enough about the design to give a reliable opinion but if you are going schooner then tell me what sailing you intend to do.

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Re: Ted Brewer Corten

Just take her for a sail.A gaff rigged vessel will either turn your crank or.. My guests are enchanted with the rig and red sails. It's the romance. Just because I can stand up on a broad reach , they don't know.We're not racing.
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Re: Ted Brewer Corten

Superiorvoyager,

Bob Perry frequents this site and does excellent reviews of boats based on their design. After reading some of his reviews at Sailing Magazine, I bought three of his books. The web site is down at the moment or I would check to see if it has already been reviewed.

Bob has a real seaman's eye. I found his predictions were uncannily accurate for the few boats I have sailed. You might want to send him an enquiry, asking his price to do a review just for you. Who knows? Since he could publish it in a later book, it might not be all that much! But in reality I have never spoken to him and have no idea.

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If I recall correctly, she has a good sa/disp ratio, plenty of sail area. A Gaff schooner will not point as high as a sloop. But a schooner with a full keel will be steady on her course and have an easy motion. You might google results for schooner races in her area to find out how she places. Let us know.
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I don't know enough about the design to give a reliable opinion but if you are going schooner then tell me what sailing you intend to do.
I cruise on lake superior but also run a charter company so look at the schooner as a possible great appeal for skippered charters. The reason for a schooner is the appeal for clients of the romance of the traditional look and feel. I also like a boat that handles well and is comfortable. I do cruise down to the Caribbean occasionally and may start spending winters down there soon but would still like to run some chartering. Eventually my wife and I plan to cruise the Caribbean and Mediterranean (and who knows where else) on an extended basis. Unfortunately this boat is over 2000 km from where I am so I can't just take it for a "spin" I've attached a link to another one that looks identical to the boat I am looking at. 1996 Ted Brewer Corten - Boats.com Probably not much to know about it, I'll just have to see if I can get the finances togeter and then go down and take a look at her.
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Re: Ted Brewer Corten

Why don't you just ask Ted?
I know his opinion will be biased, but believe me, having owned one of his designs and talked to many other Brewer boat owners, I have heard nothing but praise. This man really knows about cruising boats and sailing in general.
He is very accessible and replies to his emails. You can find his email at his website.
Good luck.
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Hope you know the difference between charter guests and passengers. There's a world of hurt if you have to meet CSI standards from a standing start.Under the table is another story with a bad ending and every year there's another case in court on this theme.And the noose keeps tightening. Iv'e been CSI for many years and it's still not easy.
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