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Re: Recommendation for 16-20' Racer/Cruiser

Dylan- I also sail and race on Lake Murray so I'm very familiar with the typical conditions. Have you considered a San Juan 21 or something like that? Still a trailer-sailor, but more more sporty than your Com Pac. My Starwind 19 is somewhere between a San Juan and a Com-Pac on the "exciting to sail" scale. A Holder 20 is an excellent suggestion, pretty fast and relatively cheap as well.

PM me if you want to talk more about Lake Murray sailing. I regularly race and its true most of the boats out there are larger keelboats. There is one VX-One which seems fun, but that's not a cheap ride. Good luck in your search!

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Re: Recommendation for 16-20' Racer/Cruiser

I'm just throwing things out at random; the Rhodes 19 is a nice boat. A friend of mine has one and he (literally, sometimes) sails circles around me in my Catalina 22.

It's light enough to trailer and rig easily, but it's big enough to hold a lot of people for a calm day sail (I think I've seen him with six or seven on it). I know there are a few one-design racing fleets out there.

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Re: Recommendation for 16-20' Racer/Cruiser

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you think med school took up lots of time, wait till you get into your internship and residency - you will hard pressed to find time to take a shower and toilet breaks, let along go sailing. If you have one day a week off, that would be the only time you will be able to sleep. I spent 15 years in medicine, and I can assure you that leisure time is not something you will have for the next 5 or more years.

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Re: Recommendation for 16-20' Racer/Cruiser

I'm guessing not many others here will agree, but I sure like my Buccaneer 18. Four might be cozy and yes the boom is a little low (but are ways to fix that). I'd look for a 85 and newer. Lots of fun to sail....

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The small boat I still like to sail best is the Thistle, an old but still active one design, Except I'm too old and hurt too much trying to race them anymore.
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The small boat I still like to sail best is the Thistle, an old but still active one design, Except I'm too old and hurt too much trying to race them anymore.
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Then buy an A-Cat. Despite the speed I think we may have one of the largest group of older sailors of any one design class because the boats are so easy to sail.

The oldest guy at worlds last year was over 90.

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C'mon! When I raced against Elmer Richards, then an active and stlll competitive, 83 year old Thistle stalwart, I asked, " Elmer, when are you going to quit? To which he responded, "I'm too old to learn anything new." Sailboat Racing | Sailing World
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I have been sailing since well before I could drive, owning several sunfish and Hobie Cat sailboats. I'm now in my last year of med school and I decided it was time to get back into sailing (school has a way of sucking up any lake days) but with something a little bit more grown up.

I purchased a ComPAC 16 thinking that having both the cockpit and a cabin would make me feel like I'm sailing on a 'real boat'. And don't get me wrong, I have thoroughly enjoyed it. However my experience closer to the water on the small boats and the thrill that comes with it isn't quite satiated on the ComPAC. I feel like it's a little sluggish and unresponsive. I also have found out that I don't care about having a cabin at all. In fact I'd rather not have one and have more room for friends on the boat. it takes a few boats to realize what you want out of them, so the ComPAC was a good stepping stone for me.

But now I want something that has some speed behind it. I'm used to the small boats and catamarans so heeling high up on one side is by no means an issue to me. I've lurked on this site for quite a while now and I thought I was going to like a Hunter 170 till I read how slow they are. Capri 16s seem closer to the fit but I'm just not sure. Flying Scots have also really caught my eye. So I need some advice from folks with experience.

Here's my priorities out of the boat I want:

1. Has to be trailerable. I don't have a slip and can't afford one. I have a decent sized V6 SUV so towing shouldn't be an issue. Just need to be able to get it rigged up and in the water quick enough to make it worth while (the ComPAC I can get in the water in 30 min).

2. My budget is around 5k, 8 would be pushing it. Really prefer to keep it lower but good boats cost money.

3. A large enough cockpit for 4 adults to sail. May be hard with it needing to be trailerable, I figured I'm looking in the 17-22 foot range but open to suggestions. Bigger is not necessarily better to me. And no cabin is wanted/needed.

4. I want to go fast. More along the lines of a racer than a cruiser. Don't mind spilling a drink or two if it means some fun action.

Thank you in advance, I've read so many different forums and everyone loves the boat they have. So it's hard to compare each boat against eachother when it's nothing but glowing reviews.

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I just want to mention that as a woman I'd prefer a guy that has a sailboat with a cabin. Why?
1. You can camp out on it for a weekend or more!
2. Some women like to play house.
Also in my opinion it's just a toy without a cabin. I know some people would disagree.
That's my two cents.

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I just want to mention that as a woman I'd prefer a guy that has a sailboat with a cabin. Why?
1. You can camp out on it for a weekend or more!
2. Some women like to play house.
Also in my opinion it's just a toy without a cabin. I know some people would disagree.
That's my two cents.
I knew when boat shopping at a bare minimum I wanted a cuddy with at least a port-a-potty. The average person needs "to go" every 3-4 hours (unless you want to be uncomfortable and hold it) which is pushing the minimum time for a proper day sail IMO, and the older I get the less comfortable I am with peeing off the stern rail or into a Snapple bottle. Not to mention my wife and/or female guests aren't too keen on dropping trow and hanging their rear-end over the side for that matter either.
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I just want to mention that as a woman I'd prefer a guy that has a sailboat with a cabin. Why?
1. You can camp out on it for a weekend or more!
2. Some women like to play house.
Also in my opinion it's just a toy without a cabin. I know some people would disagree.
That's my two cents.
Well Yeah, parking a "yacht" with leather upholstery at the guest dock in front of the bar got me more female attention than any Corvette driving gold chained lizard could dream of.
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