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Re: Cal 21 Owners

I've attached pictures of the forward bulkhead and three of the aft bulkhead. I didn't keep the aft bulkhead for a template so I can't tell you the dimensions.

I hope someone on here can state the length of the top of the aft bulkhead so I can make a template out of cardboard.
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Re: Cal 21 Owners

Ron- I'm interested in your sails and their condition.
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Re: Cal 21 Owners

I have a Cal 21 mint condition main or jib I have been storing in my house for sale.

The jib is set up for a CDI furler. I have the furler for sale too but the luff extrusion needs to be replaced. The rest is good to go.

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Hullo!

My wife and I recently purchased a 1968 Cal 21, and I was hoping there still might be some seasoned (or salty) Cal vets still hanging around to answer some of the more specific questions.

Firstly how the outhaul, downhaul/Cunningham was set up. Our boom doesn't seem to have much in the way of adjustable outhaul or any place for a downhaul.

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Re: Cal 21 Owners

Well, as a former co-owner of a 1970 CAL 21 (family boat from 1970-2008) I guess I qualify for the seasoned definition <GRIN!>

Outhaul, not fancy (as factory setup) here is the way the Owner's Manual describes it: (line was about 1/8" Dacron braid, 3/16" might be better)
. Rig Outhaul line: Tie to forward hole on boom end, run through clew, back through aft hole, back to clew and around Boom.

1) Tighten foot of sail enough to remove wrinkles.

2) Tie tight around Boom.


We later modified ours to be more like what I now have on my O'DAY Day Sailer, although we skipped the block attached to the clew an just ran the outhaul line through the clew grommet. I'l lattach a copy of the drawing of my Day Sailer setup)

The downhaul was also not fancy on the CAL 21, the line ties or is shackled to the eye on the gooseneck slider and then tied off on the cleat below on the aft side of the mast. (see pic below of gooseneck) The luff of our main did not stretch, so we just used the halyard to tighten the luff, our halyards were original setup of half cable/half rope.

Any more questions? Just let me know! However, be forewarned...... I have 38 years worth of CAL 21 stories!
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Welp just typed out a big long message, but pressed back and lost it all, so I'll just ask if you have any pictures of your jib set up handy? It would most likely answer most of my questions.

But I would like to say thank you for your time, I really appreciate it. This is our first boat and we are a bit lost with some of the finer points
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Re: Cal 21 Owners

What aspect of the jib setup? I may or may not have pictures of the factory rigging, we installed roller-furling when we replaced our sails in 1993. The original setup is pretty simple and I could sketch a layout of it if that helps.

Here is the Owners Manual description of the process of hoisting the jib:
1. JIB

a. Fasten TACK to middle hole in stem head. (we always used the aftmost hole, used a shackle)

b. Hank Jib on to Jibstay.

c. Attach Jib Halyard to Head of Sail.

d. Splice or tie in sheets to CLEW. These can be left permanently attached to the jib.

e. Lead sheets "outboard" of the stays then through the fairleads on the tracks on the cockpit coamings and tie figure-eight knots in the bitter ends.


The jib halyard has a funny looking fitting where the cable part joins the rope part, there is a good explanation earlier on this forum about that.


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Right! Ok great sounds like we have most of it down, we are missing the fair leads, but the C rails are there. As for the tack on the jib, how high off the deck did you tie it? If we haul the halyard in to the top of the rig, the sail is quite high off the deck, or is this normal?

Another aside, our mainsail has two pulley wheels sewn right in, and I have no idea what they are for.

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Re: Cal 21 Owners

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As for the tack on the jib, how high off the deck did you tie it?
Actually never mind, after re-reading I realized you said to shackle the tack right to the stem head. My reading comprehension needs some work.

There is also two of those blocks on springs - not sure what they are called - attached to the outside of the cockpit right at the aft end. Looking at pictures of other boats I have yet to see this set up. I'll take some pictures tomorrow. Puzzling.

I'm guessing I'm going to need to buy all of the jib sheet lead hardware, as the tracks are there but no cars :/
Any suggestions on what to look for would be great.

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Re: Cal 21 Owners

The 2 blocks near the stern are for the main sheet, I'll try to post a drawing of that rigging.
The 2 pulleys sewn into the sail maybe for a reefing setup if they are about 18-24" above the foot (bottom) of the sail and are located at the leading edge (luff) and trailing edge (Leech).

The jib fairleads may be a problem replacing, since Jensen Marine (CAL) used a t-track that is narrower and thicker than what is used now. Several CAL owners (all models) have noted this when upgrading/replacing hardware. You mentioned something about "C-track" so maybe yours have been upgraded already?
A good used sailboat parts dealer or marine consignment shop might have some used fairleads that fit.
Steve Seals Spars in California might also be worth checking with, Steve Seals was a rigger at Jensen Marine (CAL) and now sells replacement spars and fittings for some of the older CALs. I doubt he would have any original jib fairleads, but might have ideas. (Seal's Spars and Rigging is their web site I think).
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