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US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

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Effective Tuesday, private and corporate aircraft, cruise ships, private yachts, fishing boats, and other similar aircraft and vessels will also now be barred from traveling to Cuba, according to the Commerce Department.
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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

Thanks for the post. I saw it elsewhere also. I got the sense that they are threatening to be more diligent on enforcement. Whether they follow through or not, track AIS for example, remains to be seen. Something to think about for sure.

Im adding this as a request for clarification from someone who knows. I THINK this is just a return to a previous position, not new legislation. And I THINK that legislation actually did not bar a USA citizen from Cuba travel, just from spending money in Cuba, effectively the same thing.

Was the previous rule truly about spending money?
Is the simply a reinstatement if the original rule?
OR is this some new legislation?
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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

US citizens have traveled to Cuba for decades, via another country. Often, via Bahamas, Mexico or Canada. I don't agree with the practice, but have lost count of how many people I personally know who've done it. The bigger question is whether this will be cracked down upon.

It is clearly political, nothing more, nothing less. Personally, I have zero interest in going there, until it gets resolved. There are so many other, equal interesting, places on the globe and I'll never get to them all. It seems to be human nature to want what you're told you can't have.

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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

No new legislation has been passed. This is just a tightening up of the enforcement. The Obama administration relaxed the enforcement in two significant ways:

1. They allowed you to go without prior approval.
2. They allowed almost ANY kind of visit to be accepted as a "cultural" or "educational" exchange.

The Trump administration is just returning to stricter enforcement of the law, as it is written.

The headline on the article is a bit misleading and sensationalistic, since we are not "now" banned from traveling there, but have been for decades. The law is simply "now" being enforced.
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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

this is due to the dealings of cuba with nicaraugua and venezuela. https://dolartoday.com/eeuu-aplica-n...ldVDocThd08iVw
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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

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The headline on the article is a bit misleading and sensationalistic, since we are not "now" banned from traveling there, but have been for decades. The law is simply "now" being enforced.
Sorry, I was using "now" as to mean 2019 as opposed to Obama's loosening or the previous system. It wasn't meant be be sensationalist in the manner you describe, I just didn't want people telling me US citizens have been banned since 1963.
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The law does not actually ban an Americanís presence in Cuba. It forbids, without permission, having any economic transactions with Cuba. You canít spend any money there, nor allow anyone to spend it on your behalf. Since US insurance is inapplicable in Cuba, they require you purchase a short term policy, when you arive. A really good idea, BTW. The US should do the same, if a tourist or immigrant is uninsured. So there is no way to avoid spending money, even if you brought your boat and didnít have to pay for a room or food.

There have always been valid reasons to apply for permission. From memory, those included having family there, or being in the press or clergy on business, among a few others. Vacation was never one of them.

The Obama administration added a ďpeople to peopleĒ valid reason. Essentially a group had to have some formal program associated with it. It was just a silly way to get around the law they obviously didnít want to change. I know several who went on one of these people-people things. They were simply approved tour groups and pretty pricey. Thatís what they will no longer grant as an exception.


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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

Have wanted to sail to Cuba since I got my first sailboat about 20 years ago. Had nothing to do with being told you aren't able to travel there. The fact that it's less than a hundred miles from the keys is one thing that I find appealing, would be nice to incorporate it into a trip to the keys which is more than likely about as far as I'll ever venture. Looks like it will be another winter before I'll be able to make the trip since I'll most likely still be putting the boat back together this coming winter. Maybe things will change before I make the trip.... who knows. Regime change in both countries would probably help.
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The Bahamas are closer, if thatís an issue. The out islands are absolutely fantastic. Stay away from Nassau and Freeport. The Bahamas donít have the Latin culture, but you donít have to travel much further to find it. Then again, you can find all the Latin culture you like right in Miami. 🙂


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Re: US Citizens now Banned from Visiting Cuba! 2019

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Sorry, I was using "now" as to mean 2019 as opposed to Obama's loosening or the previous system.
No need for an apology. The article you linked made it sound like this was some new change to the law, which it is not. I probably shouldn't have focused so much on the word "now," as on the implication in the article that the laws had changed.

Anyway, it's all good (as they say).
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