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Anchored in the lee of Cacaway Island tonight. Gorgeous sunset and extremely peaceful. Amazing sailing conditions today - perfect wind direction for a sail up the Chester.
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Not sure where the gale warnings were as I didn't seen sustained winds over 34 ...
Sustained winds over 34 were not forecast - only gusts over 34. After spending a few years comparing NOAA forecasts to small craft advisories and gale warnings, it seems like they are issued based on the gust forecast (g18 and g34), not the sustained wind forecast. And obviously a gust of 18 knots (which leads to SCA) should not be a hazard for anyone except that smallest boats and/or most inexperienced sailors.

I have not seen actual "rules" of how NOAA issues these advisories and warnings, but my observations comparing gust forecasts to the NOAA's issuance of advisories shows a very close correlation.

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I see jelly fish... arg. Lots... bigger arg

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I see jelly fish... arg. Lots... bigger arg
Where?

I just had my anchor alarm go off. I went topsides to investigate, and light breeze off the stern and windscoop backwinded. It looks like current is now opposing wind, and my boat is pointed into the current. Anchor rode going at a very bad angle where keel wrap is possible. So I pulled out a small mushroom anchor, screw-lock carabiner to snatch it around the rode, and some heavy clothesline. I dropped it down as a kellet. I hope I got it in time - I'll figure it out in the daylight tomorrow.

I've never rigged a kellet before, but I brought these items from home just for this possiblity.
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Anchored in the lee of Cacaway Island tonight. Gorgeous sunset and extremely peaceful. Amazing sailing conditions today - perfect wind direction for a sail up the Chester.

Sustained winds over 34 were not forecast - only gusts over 34. After spending a few years comparing NOAA forecasts to small craft advisories and gale warnings, it seems like they are issued based on the gust forecast (g18 and g34), not the sustained wind forecast. And obviously a gust of 18 knots (which leads to SCA) should not be a hazard for anyone except that smallest boats and/or most inexperienced sailors.

I have not seen actual "rules" of how NOAA issues these advisories and warnings, but my observations comparing gust forecasts to the NOAA's issuance of advisories shows a very close correlation.


I usually use the Coast Gaurd System to avoid conflict with the "chamber of commerce" hype system. It is also associated with NOAA information.

Gale warnings to me are pretty serious conditions for most boater.
Having lived at the shore for 18 years on the beach, gale warnings from the CG meant significant erosion, flooding, as well as made inlets dangerous. As a recreational boater I tend to avoid being our in my boat in gale warnings.
Not that I haven't been, but it's not what I deem much fun. The other night as I watched sail flow and was anchored out, the conditions were blowing good. There were significant gusts over 45. Sustained winds were not really approaching 30 however. Of course there may be localized areas of difference, say Rock Hall Harbor which was dead open to these SW winds with a large fetch.

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In my limited experience Haleakula has been anchored out in true gale warnings which she handles fine, however she is protected by he wave actions by their being a small fetch. This BTW is one of my principal criteria for picking a marina. Fetch from all direction being minimal has been a choice for me.


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Perfect morning. Birds chirping .Hawks circling. Doesn't get much better than this.
I need some Kona .
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I agree that NOAA's advisories may be overly cautious. Here's their SCA for today, even though sustained winds are just 5-10. But gusts to 20 kicks it up to SCA. I guess their idea of a small craft is a jon boat:

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Chesapeake Bay from Pooles Island to Sandy Point-
642 AM EDT Sun Jun 25 2017

...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM NOON EDT TODAY THROUGH THIS
EVENING...

TODAY
W winds 5 to 10 kt. Gusts up to 20 kt
BTW, kellet seemed to have worked last night. Conditions are so benign that the mushroom anchor pretty much holds the boat at 1:1 scope.

Sunrise was gorgeous, birds chirping nicely, lots of activity in the nests. Dozens of little eddies in the water which appear to be fish hovering just beneath the surface so they can pounce when a bug lands. If I had a fishing rod it would be like shooting in a barrel.
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I agree that NOAA's advisories may be overly cautious. Here's their SCA for today, even though sustained winds are just 5-10. But gusts to 20 kicks it up to SCA. I guess their idea of a small craft is a jon boat:



BTW, kellet seemed to have worked last night. Conditions are so benign that the mushroom anchor pretty much holds the boat at 1:1 scope.

Sunrise was gorgeous, birds chirping nicely, lots of activity in the nests. Dozens of little eddies in the water which appear to be fish hovering just beneath the surface so they can pounce when a bug lands. If I had a fishing rod it would be like shooting in a barrel.
Agree, the advisories must be for a dinghy.

We use a similar 3lb mushroom anchor with a huge shackle so it slides down the anchor rode to keep the rode from keel wrapping, especially in reversing tidal areas. We lower it down the rode about 2 ft below the depth of the keel from our cleat. It has saved our bacon a few times. I have got a lot of my friends to keep one on board as it will also help drop year rode below the keel on a fouled role around the keel or rudder.

We have observed many of those bait fish. Yesterday the bait ball swam near the boat and the water was clear enough we saw a few larger fish darting N and out of it feeding including a few large rockfish as the broke the surface. National Geographic Channel in person. You almost could hear the "little Nemos "
Screaming.

We managed to get a good sail in on the way out the Choptank, when the wind promptly died. We are motoring home to the barn past Thomas Point. It's lakelike here. But it's a picture perfect day.

Lots of nettles in the water everywhere we've been.
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Lots of nettles in the water everywhere we've been.
Well that part sux.

I'm due to give the boat a belly rub to keep the slime down.

I have a dive skin and wear full foot fins, a spandex hood, gloves and dive mask so it doesn't matter much if they are there, I just prefer there not be any.

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