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Our vacation is a week away and as in previous years I started a separate thread for it so as not to post in my usual posting spot in 2019 season

Our plans are to leave mid afternoon Thursday and try to make it to at least Still Pond about a 30 mile jaunt. If we can get further Betterton on the Sassafrasís and even Chesapeake City are in play. I choose Still Pond as itís an easy in and out, Iím familiar with it so if itís dark we know it. It sets up the next day run from there to Cape May. 74 miles. Leaving at 5 AM to maximize the current through the canal, and make the best of the current on the Delaware. I usually calculate an average 5 Knots OG as a default.

We should hit Cape May between 4-7 and will anchor off the CG station. The next day we are headed for a slip at Utches, Iíve know that family for years. We are meeting friends for dinner at one of my favorite restaurants. Also pick up some fresh fish at the Lobster House for the next two dinners on the hook.

We are not on a delivery so the next two hops are a 65 mile one to Barnegat followed by a 45 mile on to Atlantic Highlands. Both are favorite anchorages of ours. The we ride the huge current up the East River, through Hell Gate at 12 knots to The LI Sound and Northport. Hoping to meet SanderO for dinner.

After that the plans are loose. Probably an anchor in North Cove of Olde Saybrooke followed by a 3 night slip in Mystic. After that itís the forks of Long Island / Newport. 21 days on the boat.

Of course itís weather dependent and very flexible. Weather days are put in as are extra days to hang out longer ...after all itís a vacation.

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Where do you anchor at Barnegat? I am making the reverse trip in late June and was thinking of Atlantic Highlands to Atlantic City to Cape May. The one time I was in Barnegat it took forever to follow the winding channel in and I wouldn't even attempt it near or after dark as it isn't consistently charted...they keep moving the buoys!
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I'd stick with your plan, You have enough daylight in June to make it to AC from the Atlantic Highlands in a long day. just pick your weather window. There's a Basin in past the Coast Guard Station @ Barnegat that you can drop a hook. You'd hang a left as soon as you clear the inlet. It's not a place to hang out for very long, just a quick overnight. You wouldn't want to mess with the channel that takes you in to the bay.
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Where do you anchor at Barnegat? I am making the reverse trip in late June and was thinking of Atlantic Highlands to Atlantic City to Cape May. The one time I was in Barnegat it took forever to follow the winding channel in and I wouldn't even attempt it near or after dark as it isn't consistently charted...they keep moving the buoys!
We anchored here 40-50 times. Barnegat can be treacherous and should avoid in most winds with an eastern component. Large rollers across the channel youíll hug the north jetty in to the red 12.

Meyers Hole 1 or 2. At the R12 coming in take a 90 decree turn to por4rt and traverse the back of the inlet perpendicularly aiming at the light house. Watch your depths. Should be 15-25 ft.

When off the bulkhead after crossing the inlet back , you will se a green/red on the same marker...keep it to your starboard as thatís the winding shallow channel to Barnegat Bay. There will be tiny private nuns and cans to stay between . Keep past the second red and turn starboard 90 degrees into first anchorage. Jack our depth and proceed slowly. 8-15 ft.

The second anchorage is further along the course past the High Bar Yacht Club close to commercial fishing vessels.

Atlantic Highlands to Atlantic City is doable, but anchoring in the current along the CG station requires very good tackle in that 4 knot current. The is a small anchorage over to the north in the marsh but not a place to find at dusk or in the dark.


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Where do you anchor at Barnegat? I am making the reverse trip in late June and was thinking of Atlantic Highlands to Atlantic City to Cape May. The one time I was in Barnegat it took forever to follow the winding channel in and I wouldn't even attempt it near or after dark as it isn't consistently charted...they keep moving the buoys!
If you do decide to give Barnegat Inlet a shot, Keep in mind that the North Jetty is awash at high tide. Don't cut the corner. You probably knew that, but it's worth mentioning. More that a few sailors have discovered that the hard way.

The inlet itself is not bad, unless there's weather. It's the amt. of summer traffic in there that can churn it up pretty good. With all due respect to Chef, I don't hug the Jetty, all you need is some 40 foot fishing boat powering up, throwing up a four foot wake to set you in the wrong direction. The inlet is fairly wide and deep enough to give the north side Rock Jetty some room.

There will also be lots of lines in the water along that wall from the land fishermen.
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Respect you comments as I believe you have transited this inlet plenty. Your advice on the north jetty is good and appropriate. Good advice about not cutting the corner. I start out between the R1 and G1 and line up the entrance straight on.

If you head down the center of the inlet you will see a disconcerting sight . A green can in the distance way down in the inlet proper after the two rock jetties. It marks a large shoal taking up the whole south side of the inlet. The shoal extends far past the midway point to the north. We’ve seen other boats hung up there. It is one of the reasons I said favor the north jetty side of the inlet. I may have led you believe you should hug the jetty which was not my intention. You are right my friend nor to do that. Large commercial boats are headquartered in the area behind the lighthouse and sometime egress or come in with their arms extended ( which is illegal) . My point was that you do not have this whole wide inlet after the jetties as it appears and he green can you spot is not for the transverse behind the inlet .

BTW that commercial scalloper with the extended arms which forced us close to the jetty who blew his horn at us was stopped by the CG located right inside the inlet, was boarded and issued a ticket. As he went by us later after we anchored he blew his horn and 6 on his crew came out and dropped their drawers showing their ass at us.

Barnegat is a treacherous inlet. I live along the Jersey shore for 18 years and kept my first keelboat in Barnegat Bay for 7 years. The current is swift and at times over 5 knots as the hydraulics of the narrowing inlet , large shallow body of water behind it ( Barnegat Bay) , cause many groundings and loss of boats. Tempests comment concerning the north jetty is very appropriate as many sinkings have occurred with corner cutters. When I kept my boat there every other week a medium powerboat ran aground or on the rocks in what appeared to be open water. This inlets hydraulics cause a large amount of uneven scouring of sand on the sides of the jetties as well as the beaches on either side of the inlet with the sand deposit. Into moving sandbars extending out either side of the inlet for over a mile. This creates larger breaking rollers across the inlet fairway as the ocean swells turn into breaking waves . You can always see this from behind it out at the buoys coming in, but look for whitewater. It is a tell as to condition running the inlet. A slow moving sailboat can get pushed reasonably hard by it. The breakers can continue past the jetties a distance also. The other Factor is current against wind creating large sea
Close to the inlet. An ebb tide of 4 knots running into a 10-15 knot breeze with an eastern component will create a rough slow ride as you try and fight your way in against the 4 knot current exposed the breaking waves.
That’s why we all respect this inlet. I have gone by and continued to Atlantic City or north to Manesquan when the conditions aren’t good. Safety first.

To me Cape May, Atlantic City, and Manesquan are to only safe inlets on the Jersey shore. I only transit Barnegat in good conditions and have passed it by as often as transited it.

That being said it’s a great picturesque anchorage with the lighthouse and the refreshing cool ocean breeze with rarely any bugs.


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Why nt sail from Cape May to Block Island or Montauk directly; then sail west along the LI Sound and return?



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Our vacation is a week away and as in previous years I started a separate thread for it so as not to post in my usual posting spot in 2019 season

Our plans are to leave mid afternoon Thursday and try to make it to at least Still Pond about a 30 mile jaunt. If we can get further Betterton on the Sassafrasís and even Chesapeake City are in play. I choose Still Pond as itís an easy in and out, Iím familiar with it so if itís dark we know it. It sets up the next day run from there to Cape May. 74 miles. Leaving at 5 AM to maximize the current through the canal, and make the best of the current on the Delaware. I usually calculate an average 5 Knots OG as a default.

We should hit Cape May between 4-7 and will anchor off the CG station. The next day we are headed for a slip at Utches, Iíve know that family for years. We are meeting friends for dinner at one of my favorite restaurants. Also pick up some fresh fish at the Lobster House for the next two dinners on the hook.

We are not on a delivery so the next two hops are a 65 mile one to Barnegat followed by a 45 mile on to Atlantic Highlands. Both are favorite anchorages of ours. The we ride the huge current up the East River, through Hell Gate at 12 knots to The LI Sound and Northport. Hoping to meet SanderO for dinner.

After that the plans are loose. Probably an anchor in North Cove of Olde Saybrooke followed by a 3 night slip in Mystic. After that itís the forks of Long Island / Newport. 21 days on the boat.

Of course itís weather dependent and very flexible. Weather days are put in as are extra days to hang out longer ...after all itís a vacation.

More to come

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Why nt sail from Cape May to Block Island or Montauk directly; then sail west along the LI Sound and return?
We’ve done that trip a few times straight across from Cape May to Block, then back inside the Sound. On a good trip 39 hours.

On this trip it is a vacation , not a delivery.

We want to stop in Barnegat and Atlantic Highlands as we are meeting friends in both places. We love the anchorage behind the lighthouse there.

Possible we do an overnight in Atlantic City on the way back where I worked for 18 years. Two of my friends are old students of mine who both are now Executive Chefs of a Casino there . I was a culinarian there in the late 80s and 90s It’s possible we come back that way or straight down the Jersey coast.

Having lived in Ocean City, NJ for 18 years I have friends I like visiting all along the Jersey coast so this gives us a chance to visit. I kept my first keelboat an Islander 28 on Barnegat Bay for 9 years and might detour for an anchorage at Tices Shoal behind Island Beach State Park to enjoy building a night time bonfire on the beach.

There are many reason for hopping up the coast for us. Lots of places to enjoy.
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