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Does the Trade Embargo apply to a private US citizen in a private vessel visiting a Cuba as a tourist and not trying to trade or establish business relations? I sincerely don't know. Only Congress has the power to repeal the Embargo. The restriction on spending any money in Cuba is enforced by the Treasury Department, that is the one that essentially "banned" American tourists from Cuba. I would go to that link I had in my last post to see the latest on that.

Edit: It looks like the ban enforced by the Treasury is part of the Embargo, although the executive branch may have the power to de-prioritize its enforcement. The law was last modified in 2009: https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...ol-regulations
Yes, the embargo absolutely does prohibit private travel there, and spending any money while there. There are currently some narrow exceptions, and as soon as congress acts the bans will be lifted (hopefully).

I know plenty of people who have gone to Cuba, most without any issue at all. But I also know a boat that was impounded for months after a trip, and was only released after a frustrating court battle. The only reason it was released was because the owner is a French citizen living in the US via a green card.

If you choose to go, feel free. But the possible consequences are severe.

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Yes, the embargo absolutely does prohibit private travel there, and spending any money while there. There are currently some narrow exceptions, and as soon as congress acts the bans will be lifted (hopefully).

I know plenty of people who have gone to Cuba, most without any issue at all. But I also know a boat that was impounded for months after a trip, and was only released after a frustrating court battle. The only reason it was released was because the owner is a French citizen living in the US via a green card.

If you choose to go, feel free. But the possible consequences are severe.
Interesting, that's the first instance I've heard of a yacht being impounded... Any idea why he might have been singled out?

When I was there about a dozen years ago, at any given time there were probably about 10 US-flagged boats in Marina Hemingway, many of them spending the entire winter there... The prices were certainly right, and a few of them had been spending the season there for years... I watched a couple of NFL playoff games aboard a large expedition yacht, whose American owner kept an apartment in Havana, and had brought an SUV along with him on the boat's aft deck... A number of sportfishing boats were hanging there, waiting to head for the next fishing tournament in Mexico, and avoiding the high dockage rates in Key West in the meantime...

Famous American fashion designer Tommy Hilfiger's 170' Benetti spent much of the winter there, that one certainly wouldn't have been hard to spot... Perhaps he was cut some slack, because - naturally - she proudly flies the Bahamian flag ;-)

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Or, perhaps they thought twice about messing with an American Icon who names his yacht after HIMSELF... ;-)

"TOMMY", pictured in Miami...





Geez, even an assclown like Donald Trump at least showed some restraint by naming his yacht "TRUMP PRINCESS", instead of "THE DONALD"...

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I think the main way to stay safe from any kind of seizure on a visit to Cuba, is just to make sure you don't do anything that could be interpreted by Cuban authorities as an effort to help a Cuban citizen to escape.

Don't do that, and turn in any Cuban citizen who approaches you for help with trying to escape, and you will be fine.

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Actually a few American's were killed when Colonel Teddy Roosevelt (later President of the United States) led the Rough Riders up San Juan Hill (July 1, 1898)

PS Roosevelt was awarded the Medal of Honor in 2001 for his military actions in Cuba.

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I didn't include that as it was Spain that Americans fought against. The Spanish were occupying Cuba and suppressing the Cubans in their fight for independence weren't they?

My point that I failed to make was that things change, and former enemies may become friends and allies. And vice versa. And I can't figure out why Cuba has the embargo but we willingly give our trade and money to China, a much bigger threat IMO and Communist as well.


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I think the main way to stay safe from any kind of seizure on a visit to Cuba, is just to make sure you don't do anything that could be interpreted by Cuban authorities as an effort to help a Cuban citizen to escape.

Don't do that, and turn in any Cuban citizen who approaches you for help with trying to escape, and you will be fine.
I find this statement very funny... In all the times I have been to Cuba, no one has ever even implied or asked that they want to "escape". This may have been true in the 80s and 90s but Cuba has changed significantly even in the last 5 years. If a Cuban wanted to "escape", he would simply get a visa and leave (if he had the money of course). Visas are not hard to get but cost money.

Many of the laws and rules you heard about in the past just aren't true any more (or recognized). Although, technically you aren't supposed to have a Cuban on your boat, we hosted many (for dinner and drinks). Lots of the old laws just aren't recognized any more but haven't been removed officially yet.
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I am interested in going. I am a professional photographer, if that helps. Seeing Cuba would be amazing.

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I'd love to go to Cuba. lots of other Canadians do.
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I find this statement very funny... In all the times I have been to Cuba, no one has ever even implied or asked that they want to "escape". This may have been true in the 80s and 90s but Cuba has changed significantly even in the last 5 years. If a Cuban wanted to "escape", he would simply get a visa and leave (if he had the money of course). Visas are not hard to get but cost money.

Many of the laws and rules you heard about in the past just aren't true any more (or recognized). Although, technically you aren't supposed to have a Cuban on your boat, we hosted many (for dinner and drinks). Lots of the old laws just aren't recognized any more but haven't been removed officially yet.
So Cuba has dropped the National Security exception for those Cubans deemed necessary to the Cuba socialist revolution professionals such as doctors, scientists and engineers that have been prevented from departing even after the supposed changes in 2012.

That's news to me. Thanks, I didn't know that. Where was that published at?

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I'm interested Dave. How many onboard? What's the departure port.
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I am an citizen of the US of A and I have taken my boat (Cape Dory 33) to Cuba. It was WONDERFUL!!!! The Cuban people are great! For those of you that think you know and spill useless "facts" to those of us that have walked the walk shut up.

GO!!!!

The key is to avoid the US Treasury ban of spending any money in Cuba. Get a foreign flagged boat to pay your entrance fee and you are good to go.

it is a great experience and you will meet wonderful people you will remember for the rest of your life.
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