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Re: First Time Crewing

I find this thread enthralling.
Not very many of these suggestions, not to say any are bad, were a possibility when I began sailing on other peoples' boats as crew and very few were available to prospective crew when I was skippering. And yet, for the most part, all went well.
The idea of bringing delights onboard and not sharing them is obviously not in the best interests of harmony aboard, so I usually ask each crew member for a list of their particular likes and buy plenty for all when provisioning. I have never asked a crew member to pay for anything themselves, including liquor, as they are helping me do the job of moving the boat. I kinda consider it as their pay. I don't understand captains who do otherwise and would never have sailed with one who did ask me to pay my way. A good crew member should surely be worth the provisions he/she consumes.
As a skipper, too many questions from an inexperienced prospective crew member is a real turn off. If it hasn't all been settled before they arrive aboard with their seabag, then they are probably not going to enjoy sailing with me. Of course, it is a different world today, but as captain I've met and dealt with my fair share of crazies over the years, and though the incident sometimes required defending myself (once being woken from sleep at sea by a nutjob wielding a winch handle), none has caused any serious physical damage to either party.
Before electronic navigation, there were probably many fewer inexperienced skippers, and those seeking crew were probably better seamen in general, so it was easier to trust them at face value. Many had tempers and weren't particularly nice people, but I always felt safe with them in command, even when running the bar of the Columbia River, in an onshore gale.
As so many above have said, I guess it really comes down to your gut feeling. Go with that, after all is said and done.

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Re: First Time Crewing

Great! Thank you. The boat is a 38' sloop, not sure of the make but I'll find out. The Captain and his wife are from WA state and have done this trip before. From what I've seen on his blog and from chatting with him, they previously sailed a 29' boat to Panama from WA, sold it then continued overland through South America. He left WA on Sept. 16, and is currently in Ensenada. He's paying for all food, en-route as well as on Land, he'll buy 2 beer maximum then I'm on my own, as well as flying me home after the journey. I'm really interested in learning as much as possible so I view this opportunity to focus and only have 2 beers or none, not a big deal. I've travelled extensively in Baja over land and have been to La Paz several times on my way to surf around the East Cape. He has a SPOT, but I will see if I can borrow my friends 'in-reach' (I believe thats what it is called) to have my own personal communication, I discussed that with the wife already.

Thanks for the insight and keep it coming.

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The idea of bringing delights onboard and not sharing them is obviously not in the best interests of harmony aboard, so I usually ask each crew member for a list of their particular likes and buy plenty for all when provisioning.
CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That little rustling of foil wrappers in the dark hours when everyone is meant to be asleep.

MICE?

No, no no! Mark and his secret choccie stash

So what I do is assess the length of voyage and designate a minimum spend on naughty stuff for each crew and then buy it at the supermarket when I can supervise that they have actually spent the money on choccies...

These are not to be shared but for that person when they are alone on deck on watch or in their bunks sounding like a mouse.

one of the delights of a long night watch is to know I have 6 hours and 6 squares of chocolate. Do I en-gob-erate them all at once? Do I just try to have 5 tonight so I have 7 tomorrow?

I don't want my chocolate ration to be rationed. I want my own. Selfish? I don't care

To make sure no one wants mine I make sure everyone buys enough personal treats before we leave. We have weeks at sea before us... I just want something thats mine, personal, not community, something that proves to me I still have an identity.


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Thats funny...
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Could Mark of Sea Life be the Gollum of the seas and choccie his precious?
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CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That little rustling of foil wrappers in the dark hours when everyone is meant to be asleep.

MICE?

No, no no! Mark and his secret choccie stash

So what I do is assess the length of voyage and designate a minimum spend on naughty stuff for each crew and then buy it at the supermarket when I can supervise that they have actually spent the money on choccies...

These are not to be shared but for that person when they are alone on deck on watch or in their bunks sounding like a mouse.

one of the delights of a long night watch is to know I have 6 hours and 6 squares of chocolate. Do I en-gob-erate them all at once? Do I just try to have 5 tonight so I have 7 tomorrow?

I don't want my chocolate ration to be rationed. I want my own. Selfish? I don't care

To make sure no one wants mine I make sure everyone buys enough personal treats before we leave. We have weeks at sea before us... I just want something thats mine, personal, not community, something that proves to me I still have an identity.


Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Cadbruys.................................. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

You and I would have dueling chocolate stashes...I read this with a hearty laugh
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If I double bag, will bagels and tortillas last a bit or will they get soggy ,quickly, no matter what? Chocolate stash will be huge, the question will be if I have the control to NOT make it my primary food source?
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As part of vetting potential crew I include
Medical history , current meds, allergies
Food likes/dislikes allergies
Then the usual about sailing, mechanical, electrical, electronics, comm, medical experience and training.
If crewing I believe you can tell a lot by how you are vetted. I’ve refused crewing if I thought the captain was too cavalier in vetting me.
Given I’ve needed to leave people on the dock when upon arrival what they presented when applying wasn’t congruent to my impression when they arrived be brutally honest in your interactions with the captain. I’ve taken to preferering a brief daysail with a newbie before signing them on. Once I took a prospective crew out in 2-3m with low to mid twenties. Fortunately he was honest. He told me he had sailed from Florida to Maine and had been in weather. When he understood that the conditions of the daysail could be expected on passage he demurred. I watched him. He was slow and clearly paralyzed by his fear so I wouldn’t have signed him on anyway.
Not mentioned is having knowledge of the other crew beyond the captain. I ask permission then share everyone’s contact information. I usually sail with three but like to take on a newbie as a fourth when feasible. Think it furthers the sport and have an obligation to the next generation. Still, I want my crew to be comfortable that the crew includes multiple skilled experience people which increases the safety and learning possibilities for all.

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There is only one captain so pick a good one.Lots of great comments. I would want to know if this is a straight shot and if not then what the stops are, and I'd want to know where the safe harbors are along the way so if weather gets bad you have a place to run to. The captain should be willing to discus those things. I found out that you can rent a Sat phone for like $100 for the month.


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This thread makes me think that someone like ASA should publish a list of questions for crew to ask of the skipper when being considered for a long passage. The skippers of course would know that these questions are coming and should be prepared with good answers.

Another list could be for skippers looking for crew... really no different that being interviewed for a job.

Finally there is the "vibe" element that can't be found in check lists and answers to interview questions. You want to feel psychologically comfortable and compatible with the cap and the crew.

How do you feel about including at least one female? Assuming she is competent... what does a female add or detract from a crew doing a passage. I found having a female on board a plus and have done many passages with them.

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