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Take a look at the Nauticat motorsailers. Pretty roomy and robustly built. They are pilothouse boats so make sure you never get rolled. I.e., series drogue.
I'm not sure what is meant by this advice. A pilothouse will have far more righting ability when rolled than a boat without a pilothouse. Maybe you are referring to the sliding side doors on the Nauticat motorsailers. Just keep the doors closed (and secured).

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I'm not sure what is meant by this advice. A pilothouse will have far more righting ability when rolled than a boat without a pilothouse. Maybe you are referring to the sliding side doors on the Nauticat motorsailers. Just keep the doors closed (and secured).
I read a first hand account where a Nauticat was rolled by a wave and the windows blew out. It did right itself and everyone was fine. In any case, pilothouse or not, avoiding capsize is good advice for everyone!

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I read a first hand account where a Nauticat was rolled by a wave and the windows blew out. It did right itself and everyone was fine. In any case, pilothouse or not, avoiding capsize is good advice for everyone!

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Ah, I see your point. Yes, if the pilothouse doesn't remain (more or less) water-tight, it doesn't help at all! Bullet-proof windows, and of course strong frames, are essential. I had assumed that Nauticats met this requirement. Maybe some do and some don't depending on when they were built and/or what the original owner ordered.

Of course the same applies to other boats without pilot houses. Many boats have incredibly flimsy, and incredibly large, ports and especially hatches. A breaking wave would take those out easily.

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I read a first hand account where a Nauticat was rolled by a wave and the windows blew out. It did right itself and everyone was fine. In any case, pilothouse or not, avoiding capsize is good advice for everyone!
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Prudent seamanship would dictate that if one is going offshore in a vessel with windows such as the pilothouse windows on a Nauticat, one would have storm boards for those windows.
Way back before Lexan, we covered our pilothouse windows with plywood on the Northern Trollers when the weather got up off the West Coast (remember in "The Perfect Storm" them trying to put up their storm boards?).
If you are taking ANY vessel with large windows to sea without proper storm boards, you really have no right to ask others to risk THEIR lives to rescue you, if you get in trouble because of it.

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Does anyone have examples of how storm boards have been affixed to port lights?


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Does anyone have examples of how storm boards have been affixed to port lights?
Normally they are secured by carriage bolts inserted from the inside of the boat through the cabin side (sealed and waterproof) at the corners and secured with a nut on the outside, with some threads sticking out for the storm boards. The storm boards are placed on these bolts and secured with either wing nuts w/lock washers or lock nuts when offshore. The threaded ends are covered with cap nuts when not in use. These days Lexan (because you can see through them) makes a good storm board and for the last set I put on an 80 footer I used 3/4", but plywood would do the job equally well with a small (4" x 6") viewing port cut to see out of, and MUCH cheaper.
On steel boat there is usually a channel welded around the window which the storm boards slide into and they are held in place by set screws.

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Found this example on-line image:


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Found this example on-line image:

I would want to epoxy in threaded inserts, as it appears was done in this photo. In addition, there appears to be a generous lip/edge which would help spread a compression load from a wave over a larger area of fiberglass.

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Re: Cruiser versus motor sailer

Pretty ugly to have the attach points exposed, after the boards are removed at destination. Price to pay, I suppose.


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