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I'm hoping to transit the Welland Canal in about 2 weeks for the first time - Lake Erie to Lake Ontario. Someone told me recently that you need super long mooring lines - in the order of a hundred feet. Really? Surely that's a bit apocryphal? I have lots of good strong mooring lines aboard - but nothing like that. Or do I need to head for the chandlery?

Have any recreational boaters transited in the last little while? Any other tips? How are Port Dalhousie and Port Colbourne dealing with the high water?
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Came through day before yesterday on my 100th passage.
No, you do not need any mooring lines. You will pull up near the front on the lock and they will drop two lines too you.
You must have three crew onboard for upbound passage one at bow, one at stern and a helmsman. This requirement is due to the extra turbulence when filling the locks, you do need someone on the throttle. Downbound you can do it single handed if you are good enough but I don't recommend it, two is best.

There are free docks at either end of the canal where there are phone booths with dedicated lines to check in with Seaway Control.
There are no service at either dock. When you come into the canal from Lake Ontario look for the first little basin on the port side and the telephone booth, you can tie up there.

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Re: Welland canal transit

Nothing to add to BP's post except that it's correct. They'll provide approximately 100' poly pro lines. Minimum 3 adults on board.
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Thanks Boatpoker!

I'm planning on transiting the canal the week of June 5th. The boat is a CS33 with a 3YM20 motor. Crew will be my wife and I and a couple or three friends from Hamilton. Weather permitting.
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By the way, I'll have to read the Guide again, but I think I read recently that recreational boats can only start the trip between 9 AM and 5 PM. Is that accurate?
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Not sure about that. It used to be 24/7 until pretty recently. Maybe give them a call?

Could be a long night if you show up past 5, I've taken anywhere from 6-16 hours for a transit with 8-10 being normal.

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By the way, I'll have to read the Guide again, but I think I read recently that recreational boats can only start the trip between 9 AM and 5 PM. Is that accurate?
24/7 for all vessels. It took us 7hrs downbound the other day. My average is about 10hrs. 12-14hrs is not all that unusual but I have taken as long as 36hrs when they shut it down with me in lock 3 due to fog...... a very long night.
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Went upbound exactly one year ago. Checked in at 7 am, started moving 4pm, finished 1am. I think it is a bit cheaper if you pay toll online.

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24/7 for all vessels. It took us 7hrs downbound the other day. My average is about 10hrs. 12-14hrs is not all that unusual but I have taken as long as 36hrs when they shut it down with me in lock 3 due to fog...... a very long night.
Hmmm. So, extra snacks. And if we're not close friends when we start we may be by the time we're done!
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And if we're not close friends when we start we may be by the time we're done!
If you don't kill each other first

PS. When we went through the other day the credit card machine at the phone booth was down .... no charge for canal transit. Get there before they fix it.

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