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Re: Words to the wise!

We'd read this earlier in the day, and it was a pretty sobering account to me.
In my experience of being capsized three times in a tropical cyclone off Fiji, we had many similar experiences, but our pumps were fouled by can labels instead of books, a fuel tank split open, etc. but essentially the interior was every bit as messed up as she described. We'd lost our dink as well, but there was no lifeline out there, back then. It was on us to save the boat and survive.
I've read a lot of 'abandon ship' yachtie stories and most seem overly dramatic and mostly written as justification for leaving a boat because they were terrified, not because they really had to. And perhaps with their skill level, they really did need to abandon that boat at that time. But this story rings true of the agony of having to abandon your boat/home/life and dreams.
Like the captain of Kelaerin, I've always said that I wouldn't leave the boat until I had to step up into the liferaft, but this story kinda shook my certainty, even though I've survived a similar incident. I was under 30 back then, not over 70. So, let's hope I never get in that position again, as once is truly enough, IMO.
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Re: Words to the wise!

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This story was posted elsewhere in a lifeboat thread. I’ve skimmed it, enough to get the gist, I’ll read it more carefully when I have more time. Sobering indeed.

Thanks for your additional remarks. As I close on 68 this year I share your desire to avoid similar circumstances.

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30 and 70 make a world of different... even 50 and 70. Seniors will to go offshore at their own peril. It in not prudent to do it without some young strong hands on board. Learn to accept the diminished capacity and change.

This couple was too old for what they had to face.. and not prepared and their guard was down. But who wants to sail with the expectation of a killer storm in their path?

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You are too hard on them. They only did what anyone in their position would do. The skills and judgement they used probably saved their lives. Its gotta be hard. But the husband acted and made the decision because protecting his wife was more important than any boat.

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Don’t care what their age is. Was the time to leave.
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I won’t go off shore without a JSD. Period. These folks could have put one out. Buttoned up and still had a boat in all likelihood.
I given up on singling except coastal. Nothing to do with age but rather too many experiences where even with the AP steering had desperate need for another pair of hands for a key repair.
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It reads like they retrieved their boat at a later date. Anyone have the epilogue? Passage during hurricane season, albeit early?

Note to self........ wife never reads this story.
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I won’t go off shore without a JSD. Period. These folks could have put one out. Buttoned up and still had a boat in all likelihood.
Is that some sort of drogue? I was wondering is such conditions they did not have one out? I try not to judge their actions because they have a world of sailing experience over me. Well not quite the world but close.

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You will find some 10 y.o. posts by SailingDog here where he raves about the JSD.

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You can put it out by yourself. Then it’s totally a passive technique. You go below. Keeps you stern to the waves and slows you down enough you won’t pitchpole. But allows enough forward motion a wave strike won’t destroy the boat. In hurricane conditions I’d probably lose my hard dodger with a wave strike but won’t lose my boat or life.
I’ve been pooped while at the wheel while running. I broke ribs. I had a bruise that perfectly outlined where I was pressed against the wheel for weeks. I got the bruise through fleece, foulies and foam life vest/harness. That was in a storm of much less severity than these folks report. I’ve come to believe I’m a wimp. Want to set the boat up, button down, lie on the sole, whimper and cry for my mama. I think it’s crazy to believe you can survive hand steering and running in a storm like reported here. Regardless of age and fitness you will be exhausted in short order. Make any mistake you broach and roll.

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