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Thanks for the articles. Other than the headline, it wasn't very informative.. It just makes a claim and doesn't even say by how much. I've found the citation, which is a brutal read, but I'm on my second pass. It says 15 thousandths of a degree per year and it makes correlation to precipitation rates. It also seems the Caribbean is somewhat unique from general equitorial experience, which is exactly what I was asking. It may even be warming fast than global averages.

I certainly understand the inter-dynamics of these variables. Ironically, I read the 'if you believe in science' retort as a preloaded argument, if anyone even appears not to be at the alter by asking questions. I'm no denier. I'm trying to understand, because I assume we're doomed. I just hope to pull off my retirement plan first.


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I think you are ďsafeĒ in that you will die of something else first. Now what that something else might be and how closely itís lurking are interesting questions! My bet is our life expenfancey here is better than it was there.

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All one has to do is google, sea temp raise to see that sea temperatures are raising hence more violent Hurricanes in the past 10 years down here. Unless you don't believe in science which there are plenty that do not.
https://eos.org/research-spotlights/...-the-caribbean Just one such article. With sea temperature raise comes climate change. It is what I believe, your mileage may vary.
Oops, I didn't see your post when I linked to the same article. Sorry.

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Well based on purely empirical data the sea is a little warmer and the winter winds are a little less ferocious

The 'Christmas winds' were not as long or as strong as they have been in the past.

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Where are you?
Itís interesting that some would say both kite season and Xmas winds have disappeared just like the shoulder seasons have gotten all mixed up on the east coast.
With more weather coming off the east coast there are more opportunities for the trades to be blocked.
Iíve thought Xmas winds were a manifestation of settled weather on the east coast so nothing was blocking the trades. Therefore the leewards saw the same wind strengths as the windwards during those times. Would appreciate a more knowledgeable explanation from someone with more expertise.
I did use the Genoa up there but it hasnít been unrolled yet down here given it hasnít been necessary.

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Where am I ? currently in Guadeloupe having just completed a circumnavigation [of Guadeloupe].

I spend my time wandering from Trinidad to St Marten.
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For those cruising the windwards all winter (or year for that matter), what works with respect to Customs and Immigration? I've never had to clear more than 2 countries on any given trip. I'm trying to imagine what it's like to have to clear at almost every island one hops to. I'm curious about fees, but more curious about the hassle. I was just watching a vlog of a boat that left one island, got 100 miles away on another and realized they needed to go back fro something. The vlog didn't mention clearing out from where they were and back into where they had just left, then out again. I wonder how many flaunt the rules, which is not my style.


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Sailclear and eclear have made things easier. The French islands are a breeze as you go to a computer (usually in a chandlery) and fill out a form. Save your print out and copy it for the next one so you don’t have to deal with the weird French to English translations. You are clearing into France with those. Found windwards much easier than leewards. Worst was BVIs. Went back and forth from USVI and St. Martin. Every time we reentered BVI cost was different.
Cost isn’t a concern in the windwards. Trivial c/w leewards. Will have to “import” boat to St.Lucia for $30 US as we’ll be off the boat for a few weeks.
Have learned to clear out the day before wherever you are. It’s good for 24h so allows you to leave at the time of day you want. Usually leave at dawn or earlier so don’t want to wait for offices to open. Sometimes leave at dusk in order to make landfall at dawn or mid day. Then clear morning of leaving.
Would suggest buying all your curtesy flags at once. Would suggest being spot on about using your Q flag. Have heard horror stories concerning those who tried to game out of clearing.
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For those cruising the windwards all winter (or year for that matter), what works with respect to Customs and Immigration? I've never had to clear more than 2 countries on any given trip. I'm trying to imagine what it's like to have to clear at almost every island one hops to. I'm curious about fees, but more curious about the hassle. I was just watching a vlog of a boat that left one island, got 100 miles away on another and realized they needed to go back fro something. The vlog didn't mention clearing out from where they were and back into where they had just left, then out again. I wonder how many flaunt the rules, which is not my style.
I presume things have changed. When I was floating about done there in the 90s I would clear in and stay for a spell. But I often did not clear in if I had recently and was doing an overnight before heading on to another island... island hopping. Probably illegal but that is what I did. I spent a lot of time in English Harbor but was away for months at a time and so I did clear back in when I returned. If I sailed to Deshais for the weekend I didn't clear out or back in.

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....Worst was BVIs. Went back and forth from USVI and St. Martin. Every time we reentered BVI cost was different......
Thanks for the run down. All good to hear.

You are spot on with the BVIs. Not only a different price each time, but the regression line it clearly pointing upward. I cleared in this winter, with a crew of 4 on a 51ft boat. $465. Two years ago, I recall something in the $200 range.


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