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Hello everyone my name is Bradley, I'm 17 and thinking about starting to live aboard I want to be able to travel the world but don't know what to get for a sailboat. I will be sailing by myself and a little pup. I have no sailing experience, but my grandfather lived on a sailboat off and on for most of his life and will teach me. I want to to have a long-keel and it has to be a blue water sailboat. I am thinking I want something between 25-38 feet but open to other opinion. I am looking at a 1994 Tradewind 35.
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I'm sure the naysayers will chime in. Go for it! And, post pictures of the pup!

My 2 cents is to buy a smallish coastal cruiser for more local adventures and learning. What you want in a boat will likely change the more you sail, so sail lots, and don't spend too much on the first boat (and repairs, upgrades, etc)
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Abroad?
Over here? Or over there?
Some places are affordable, others are less so.

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Try trains and buses first.
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I loved living on board and still do for about half a year. So I would say go for it. But, get to know your boat and all that it takes to maintain it first before you sail off. I worked in New York and from April to December lived on board and loved every minute of it plus it saved me from a long commute. It was not cheap but less expensive than a cramped New York apartment and I could not beat the view. Now that I am retired I love living on board even more by not having a schedule and not being stuck in one location.

Might be easier without the dog. Pets on a boat are like having a drunken crew that can't help you sail, dock or
take the helm in an emergency. But, you still have to feed them. But, that's just me.

My 30 footer has worked well for me and I can easily handle it alone which is how I pretty much sail now. I also prefer to be on a mooring or at an anchor these days. Though when I was working in Manhattan being at a dock was more convenient while I was still a wage slave. Being on a boat is not free and as Mark pointed out other destinations are not just about sailing to them and dropping the hook. So good luck with your plans but, keep your eyes open because it's not always smooth sailing but, still a great way to live.
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Baby steps... Day sails. Weekend trips. Coastal cruising. Somewhere along the line you'll start to get a feel for things.

If you want to know how things can go badly for the inexperienced, read Voyage For Madmen. Then read Sailing A Serious Ocean where a highly experienced sailor takes his customers for a ride.
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Again, my recommendation is to find a boat that is first and foremost a comfortable place to live. I know @ 17 you can live almost anywhere and the same for sleeping (I slept on a ˝" plywood floor just over a 6/71 diesel quite well when I was a teen), but it's still nice to have a comfy home to bring friends to and lounge around in.
Lots of storage for your personal gear, tools, food, and spares, and good ventilation are essential for a good liveaboard, especially in warmer climates.
Just about the last thing on your list should be what she looks like. A lot of really beautiful sailboats are really uncomfortable to live on in rolly anchorages or sail around on the anchor like boats possessed, The most beautiful boat I ever considered buying (a Herreshoff) didn't even have standing headroom below.
Chances are, you'll go through a lot of changes between now and when you actually set off on your first ocean crossing unless you are a trust fund kid, of course, therefore this probably won't be the boat you'll have then, so consider that when looking as well. Very few of us got lucky enough to begin our cruising lives as teens or very young men.
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One of my regrets is that I didn't do this as a kid. My kids weren't born until my late 20s, so I could have. Unfortunately, I still had a bad taste in my mouth, from being a kid and being the indentured labor on my parent's boat. I was still swearing off boat ownership then.

Just be very realistic about how this will progress, if you've not yet learned to sail. Including the possibility that you'll need to modify your dream. The worst let downs are self imposed. You set a goal that's too high, when a more realistic goal could have felt like a huge win.
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Try trains and buses first.
This is a very good idea. You could live aboard and travel the world via more efficient means, while learning to sail and maintain a boat. The one thing that will make your life of travel harder is the pup. I now have two awesome dogs but they make travel very difficult and may be the end of my long term cruising plan. Owning a dog is a bigger commitment than owning a boat, both are big commitments.
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Re: Thinking about living abroad

Cruising with a dog is expensive and limiting. It also requires careful planning to make sure you have all the logistics sorted.

B all means stick with the long keel but be prepared for almost no control going astern it will have a mind of it's own.

Some of the cica 26 ft pocket cruisers are based on the Folkboat and lots have circumnavigated. But the accommodation is pretty cramped.

A 30 ft Catalina has 3 times the room and still sails well in fact will sail rings around a Folkboat as well as steering going astern.
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