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COMMUNICATIONS
When I lived aboard (years ago) I didn't have internet or inexpensive cellular service, so I missed living the "normal" life that I had grown accustomed to. So in the near future when my wife and I commence prolonged cruising I will definitely install high gain antennas for 4G and wifi, to keep in touch with kids and friends. Perhaps even watch some Netflix when anchored close to civilization.

GARBAGE DISPOSAL
My boat had a dishwasher and a trash compactor. Turns out I never used (and still don't) the dishwasher. In the future will install pressure, filtered salt water. However the trash compactor was extremely helpful. Wow. The only problem was the specialized heavy duty paper bags. Storing trash (space and odors) during long ocean passages really sucks!
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When I lived aboard I didn't have internet or inexpensive cellular service, so I missed the "normal" communications that I had grown accustomed to. So in the near future when my wife and I commence prolonged cruising I will definitely install high gain antennas for 4G and wifi, to keep in touch with kids and friends. Perhaps even watch some Netflix when anchored close to civilization.

GARBAGE DISPOSAL
My boat had a dishwasher and a trash compactor. Turns out I never used (and still don't) the dishwasher. In the future will install pressure, filtered salt water. However the trash compactor was extremely helpful. Wow. The only problem was the specialized heavy duty paper bags. Storing trash (space and odors) during long ocean passages really sucks!

STORAGE SPACE
I believe bigger is better when it comes to boats for long passages, remote cruising and independence. Can't have enough storage space since as a live aboard I didn't have a garage or offsite storage.
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Re: Liveaboards: What do you miss?.

Let's reverse this for a landlubber ex-liveaboard;

I miss the sound of the wires hitting the inside of the mast when she rocked. I miss being rocked to sleep when another vessel would pass near the dock. I miss the "only $50/mo extra liveaboard fee" for all the free water and electricity I could use! I miss... ...the TV on a 14" laptop monitor at 4 feet away still looked the same as a 27" TV all the way across a living room, but folded up and stowed under a cushion. ...a 1500W space heater with fan was too much heat in the winter. ...a 5000 BTU hatchtop A/C unit was just enough. ...the yellowish soft light of the interior 1156 bulbs in the sconce fixtures. ...dock showers in the summer. ...the shudder of the rig in a high wind gust (or hurricane (stayed aboard at dock for 2--Alberto and Opal)). ...the grill being 5 feet away from the dinner table. The stove being 5 feet away from the dinner table. ...$184/mo rent (which included the $50 liveaboard fee). ...free cable. ...the 4" foam cushion on which I slept for years and never had a backache (I only last 7 hours on my current mattress and always wake up in pain).

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COMMUNICATIONS.... I will definitely install high gain antennas for 4G and wifi, to keep in touch with kids and friends. Perhaps even watch some Netflix when anchored close to civilization.
I think the free WiFi game is coming to an end. Even where itís free, you often need the password. The vendors that give it away want you in their store. When 5G cellular becomes mainstream, most wonít need WiFi and I suspect the giveaway WiFi will nearly disappear.

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........the trash compactor was extremely helpful. Wow. The only problem was the specialized heavy duty paper bags. Storing trash (space and odors) during long ocean passages really sucks!
Always wanted one. Do you recall make/model?


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Re: Liveaboards: What do you miss?.

Precisely the opposite reason many choose to sail away is that people like to have established roots, be part of a community, create a comfortable home and be surrounded by the familiar. I suspect that a fair number people who sail off may not realize what they had til it's gone. Not everyone re-calibrates daily expectations successfully for long term.

I wonder what the states are concerning how many people never return to dirt compared to those who do after years aboard out there.

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at the moment I miss air conditioning without having to listen/run the generator!!!
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Let's reverse this for a landlubber ex-liveaboard;

I miss the sound of the wires hitting the inside of the mast when she rocked. I miss being rocked to sleep when another vessel would pass near the dock. I miss the "only $50/mo extra liveaboard fee" for all the free water and electricity I could use! I miss... ...the TV on a 14" laptop monitor at 4 feet away still looked the same as a 27" TV all the way across a living room, but folded up and stowed under a cushion. ...a 1500W space heater with fan was too much heat in the winter. ...a 5000 BTU hatchtop A/C unit was just enough. ...the yellowish soft light of the interior 1156 bulbs in the sconce fixtures. ...dock showers in the summer. ...the shudder of the rig in a high wind gust (or hurricane (stayed aboard at dock for 2--Alberto and Opal)). ...the grill being 5 feet away from the dinner table. The stove being 5 feet away from the dinner table. ...$184/mo rent (which included the $50 liveaboard fee). ...free cable. ...the 4" foam cushion on which I slept for years and never had a backache (I only last 7 hours on my current mattress and always wake up in pain).
The grass is always greener or maybe the water is always bluer...

I've been looking in on this thread since it started and have been asking myself repeatedly, what did I miss about dirt life when I was living aboard? I thought I might have written something down in my journal, i had not.

I miss living aboard terribly, but I'd miss my wife even more. She's loves to sail and we spend all the time that we can on board now. Hoping when we retire in 4 years we'll be able to spend even more time on board.

I remember moving from my 30' Pearson (which had maybe 15' of living space) to a 600 square foot studio and thinking what the H am I going to do with all of this space. It was and still is a bit overwhelming. The worst part is that the studio doesn't move and we end up flying to the places that we want to visit....I don't enjoy flying.

The apartment is very stagnant...the view, the neighborhood and the neighbors are almost always the same. Some folks might find comfort in that...to me, it shares too many similarities to a long term prison sentence. It also feels very removed from nature....the sounds, the weather, the movement of the clouds and sea. Might as well be living in a bubble on the Moon. ...the grass is always greener...

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What do you plan to filter out in your saltwater filter
A seawater strainer isn't fine enough. Why would you pump raw salt water into the galley? An inexpensive Home Depot whole house paper filter is worth the money.

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I think the free WiFi game is coming to an end... When 5G cellular becomes mainstream, most wonít need WiFi and I suspect the giveaway WiFi will nearly disappear.
Good point. SIM cards and data are rather cheap in most countries - we always pick them up at the airport at each country we travel to.

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Always wanted one. Do you recall make/model?
Don't remember, but it was just a normal domestic unit, 12" wide. I wonder if it is practical to install a small incinerator on a boat? Maybe just a solid wood burning fireplace can be used to burn paper/cartons, etc.
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The apartment is very stagnant...the view, the neighborhood and the neighbors are almost always the same. Some folks might find comfort in that...to me, it shares too many similarities to a long term prison sentence. ...

13 years I've been floating about the world.
Probably another 13 to go. Maybe 13 after that.
There's no prison out here


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And they'll turn it down for the cell they know"
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