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Don L 12-12-2019 01:02 PM

Re: Safety and security in the Caribbean.
 
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Originally Posted by colemj (Post 2051640928)
Need to be careful assessing "end of the road" places like Luperon, Rio Dulce, Key West - the people there identify with the place and have often lost objectivity to the point of being overly-defensive and having alternate facts.

That can be the truth. I am a member of the Key West Facebook page. I once commented that all I read on it seemed to be about stuff getting stolen and the water cops "harassing" people. The group went all crazy at me.


Hey it's just like a forum sometimes :laugh

chef2sail 12-12-2019 01:22 PM

Re: Safety and security in the Caribbean.
 
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Originally Posted by Don L (Post 2051640940)
That can be the truth. I am a member of the Key West Facebook page. I once commented that all I read on it seemed to be about stuff getting stolen and the water cops "harassing" people. The group went all crazy at me.


Hey it's just like a forum sometimes :laugh

I think you are right and youíll find that when you ask people who have permanent residence or cruise in the same area continuously. Donít expect to get an objective review as no one would either admit or want to be told the area they chose to live was either dangerous, had a good crime rate, or was polluted.

You need to do your own research. Look at the police logs, crime statistics etc. then of course you have to do due diligence in practicing personal safety. Taking advice from people who are there is only one factor. Metrics are indisputable.

You canít let the beautiful scenery and temperatures of ďparadiseĒ fool you into making an incorrect assumption.

Minnesail 12-12-2019 03:26 PM

Re: Safety and security in the Caribbean.
 
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Originally Posted by outbound (Post 2051640910)
At this point have cruised the windwards and leewards enough to have some sense of this. Know which places are the equivalent of the south Bronx and which are Sutton place.

This is off topic, I apologize, but I donít think the south Bronx is that bad anymore. I was walking around the Mott Haven neighborhood last weekend and it seemed fine.

I had an event Friday night at 149th in Harlem. I wanted a hotel in walking distance, and it was kind of last minute, so I ended up across the river in the Bronx. I donít think I had ever been in the Bronx before, so Saturday morning I spent an hour or so walking around. It wasnít exactly scenic, but it didnít feel unsafe. I did some Google searches after I left it turns out the crime rate has plummeted since the 90s.

Anyway. Crime moves. What was once dangerous may now be safe; what was once safe may now be dangerous.

MarkofSeaLife 12-12-2019 05:45 PM

Re: Safety and security in the Caribbean.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnesail (Post 2051640972)
I donít think the south Bronx is that bad anymore.
I had an event Friday night at 149th in Harlem. .


If you're a bad dude in those areas you've gotta be a RICH bad dude.


Each time I am in New York I have a look at the real estate prices - sorry, cant avoid it - and no one on Manhattan can own dirt for under $1 million. Thats dirt, not an apartment which is a percentage of dirt.



Its all changed.

outbound 12-13-2019 03:12 PM

Re: Safety and security in the Caribbean.
 
Kinda like Hoboken. Use to be a dump. Now totally unaffordable. My bad.


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