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Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

Nothing turned up in my searches for this topic...if this needs to be merged with an existing thread, thanks to the admins.

We're curious how many people here are members of yacht or sailing clubs. Specifically, if anyone here is using the reciprocating privileges which many clubs extend to one another for visiting/transiting yachts and their crew, and if so, which clubs those are. One club we've found, The Royal Nassau Sailing Club in Nassau, Bahamas looks very interesting.

We understand the extension of privileges between clubs may be a thing of the past, and realize that many clubs are 'closed' and don't extend any privileges to any persons outside of their established memberships. And, some clubs may only extend privileges to other clubs in a 'member-network' of sorts. But there are some clubs that still extend privileges internationally...right?

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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

I am not a member of any clubs right now, but I used to be a member at a couple of clubs on Lake Ontario. One in Niagara, one in Gananoque.

We used the reciprcol privileges a lot. Pretty much every week end we would do a trip to another club and use the facilities, check out the town etc. For me its the best reason to join a club (along with racing).

The clubs we belonged to had a list of clubs that the privileges extended to. It was a pretty long list. The 2 clubs we belonged to were a couple hundred miles apart, but both were on the others list. I think most of the bigger clubs on the great lakes had recipricol privileges.

However, I don't think many clubs beyond the great lakes were listed except maybe down the St Lawrence. Both Canadian and US clubs were included.
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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

I was the Commodore of a Yacht club we belonged to for 10 years. Many clubs on the Chesapeake had reciprocity with it. Some for reduced rates.

Many Yacht clubs will not let you even stop at them as a transient unless you are a member or the club is a member of Yacht Clubs of America’s. We used to travel to Long Island with a letter from the Club introducing us which soul in turn give us privileges to stop . It opened the door to many “ snobby exclusive “ clubs to stay. There are many participating clubs.

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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

Thanks for the quick replies -

That sounds like a lot of what we've encountered. I should have said, however, that we're primarily interested in reciprocity with other international clubs. For example, the Royal Nassau Sailing Club has reciprocity agreements with many US, Canadian, Caribbean, and UK based clubs, but for a club in Italy for example, they would email/fax a letter or make a telephone call to the club in question on our behalf as members and request reciprocity.

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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

I've never joined a yacht club as an adult. My family did, when I was a kid. I do belong to both a country/golf club and a sportsmans club. Each have reciprocity rights.

I suppose it's nice, when you make it work. The process varies quite a bit. Some clubs require prior permission, arranged by your home club in advance. However, it's not the same going to a foreign club. You don't know anyone, but unlike a public/transient club/marina/course, they all know each other. It's never been a problem, I've always been treated nicely, but it's never been fully comfortable either.

I would not join a club solely for the reciprocity.
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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

I agree with Minnie,

We didn’t join the yacht club for reciprocity....we also didn’t join for racing as you don’t need to be a member of a yacht club to participate in racing in the Chessie.

The conscious decision was to have my wife familiarize herself with other women who sailed where she could learn from other than myself. This included the socialization part. I got involved as an officer to help the clubs financial situation at the behest of some members who we were friends with. Eventually the club changed. A lot of our friends started aging out. The politics of me being the Commodore led to us not enjoying our time there as there was a struggle with the social members who paid minimal dues using the infrastructure of the club while the boating members paid the freight. The vocal group of partiers from the community started taking the club over and the boaters whose focus was their boats and slip got their commradiere and socialization on the water together. This social groups vocal pressure eventually led us to looking at other places to keep Haleakula which were substantially cheaper and better location after 10 years there.

To join a club just for reciprocity didn’t make sense as we anchor out most of the time anyway. Most clubs slips are not as nice as good marinas for when we wanted to get a slip, which as I said was rare.

Most areas have separate racing from the clubs.


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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

Never had much interest or experience with yacht clubs. The Royal Bermuda Yacht club was very gracious at the conclusion of the Marion Bermuda race I did. We did stay there for about a week. It was memorable. Occasionally I have wanted to land my dink to walk the dogs along the street. Virtually all I have asked refused!

I have dined at a few clubs... one in Marblehead, but don't recalled if I was anchored or picked up a mooring. Club was welcoming. Also experienced welcoming to clubs' dining room in Gloucester and City Island.

I believe if you are out there cruising you need to be self sufficient. Having said that most sailors are very helpful for almost anything you need. They are social and if you are a social person... as opposed to a loner type... a club membership may make sense.

Many clubs are snobby and exclusive... Who needs that?
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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

There are plenty of high end transient marinas out there. Just spend the money on those, if that's what you like. Ironically, even if you have reciprocity rights, you often still pay a transient fee. They're all different.
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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

Actually I found most clubs are not exclusive or snobby. that’s old school. Even on the LI Sound where you are , the majority of clubs we stayed at were very friendly. Course there are examples of Those that Are snobby and there is an old stereotype of that happening. however I have found very few snobby. In today’s world where it’s hard to find new members it doesn’t pay.

Many clubs have jr sailing programs where members teach the youth how to sail as volunteers. Most clubs don’t have restaurants and many don’t have actual clubhouses. In today’s new world many are virtual sailing clubs. Ie
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Yes there is a lot of socialization. That’s not a bad thing. In the club I belonged to there were weekend cruises and raft ups. There were weeklong cruises. You could participate, or you didn’t. There was no pressure.

For my wife this was a very positive introduction to sailing and I believe it led to her learning and embracing sailing to the extent she has. She far exceeded many of the other women sailors eventually and became a mentor to other women getting involved in sailing for the first time. Plus there are all sorts of age groups...not just 60 somethings like me

It goes to your personality I think. I’m sure I get skewered for saying this, understand there is no value judgement just my perception as a sailor and somewhat as a psychologist.

Many cruisers, sailors are loners. Not anti social but would prefer to e perience their sailing singularly. They don’t mind long periods of time by themselves, or with their boat and significant other. Another group are joiners, who cruise in rally’s. And in groups. Many weekend sailors like going by themselves also. Maybe this is why there seems to be less and less sailors .

In order to attract sailors to the sports, pastime , or whTever you want to call it, maybe attracting more younger sailors would be the social part. SN is social media. We have met sailors on here we get together with. We have a family we are good friends with.

In a way it’s a “club” . I sponsored a rondevous at our yacht club for 6 years running which attracted 30-60 couples. I think Rob Gallagher did the same in LI. Some of the manufactures have rondevous every yeR ( Bristol, Tartan, C&C , Sabre) .

The people who are social and in clubs tend to “pay it forward” to other sailors. Again no value judgement.

Older sailors by nature are older sailors and I have found many are “trapped” in old ways. The lucky thing I have had is a job where I am surrounded by younger people. They have different views and drivers. They may not have experienced what I have , however they are the future. It’s one of my fears of retiring, not being influenced by the younger generations.

Take me out back and shoot me if that happens. Last thing I want to become is that old single minded curmudgeon.
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Re: Yacht/Sailing Clubs??

I think that most yacht clubs would become reciprocals of another yacht club if there is a reasonable expectation of reciprocity. If there isn't, what would be the point?
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