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Re: Sick Child

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.....There was a great Swedish (maybe Dane, I'm not certain) professor who studied the heck out of this. He was an excellent speaker and can be found on YouTube. He showed, as world wide standard of living increases and mortality rates improve (which are quantifiably happening, despite political rhetoric) the planet's population will cap off at around 10 billion. At that point, births will simply be replacing deaths. The silly science fiction movies about a crowded planet are fiction.
I guess you are thinking of Hans Rosling (sadly, now dead). He was long a proponent of pointing out how things were improving and had a way of self correcting. An interesting demographer that I would recommend is Nicholas Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Institute. He talks about the population explosion arose: “not because people started breeding like rabbits but because they stopped dying like flies”. It takes a couple of generations for the new reality to set in. Interestingly, he points out that the Muslim world - often cited as an example of how religion will get in the way of the move to smaller families - has seen a drop in fertility rates to match France in only a generation. He also describes the “flight from marriage” and the consequences of Africa, the Middle East and South Asia adjusting like the rest of the world in terms of reducing population growth when economic growth reduces poverty.

Back to the topic at hand, I did not see anyone was shaming anyone else’s risk tolerance for their children - As far as I can tell, the parents were taking their child sailing and when they got sick, seeking medical attention. Even the NYT article did not seem to say that parenting is a competition as to who can expose their kids to the most risk.
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I'm sorry but I just can't agree that going cruising is more dangerous for a child than growing up in modern society, even long before help was available should there be a problem.
Not to say one shouldn't take precautions. One rule we had that we NEVER broke was a sort of quarantine after our kid spent time playing with other children ashore before we set off for an ocean crossing. A friendship with an NZ couple was completely destroyed after they exposed our daughter to a communicable children's disease a few days before departure even though we had discussed this subject. We delayed our departure to cover a reasonable incubation period. Preventative medicine is also a must when sailing, especially for a child. We never once missed our dose of chloroquine, the anti-malarial medication of the time, and our daughter received fluoride pills as we weren't drinking fluoridated water.
A practical medical kit, passing on silly things like sutures, is also a must, not going overboard with all sorts of perishable medications or items only a trained medical professional should be using. I found local medical care quite satisfactory, even in the Orient and the Middle East, while coastal cruising. I'm sure our kid contracted many fewer illnesses than the average American school child.
And best of all, boat kids rock!
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Sure, boat kids rock. While most kids will do just fine, kids do get cancer. They get unidentifiable bacterial diseases their immune systems can’t handle, or they may have congenital heart maladies. Theses are not all known at birth and can go from zero to 60 pretty quickly. Each has happened in my near family. Only the one with cancer (a niece) didn’t survive and thrive. The others wouldn’t have either, without high end medical care.

As I said, odds are in ones favor, but coming up craps would suck.
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sorry to hear that, this is always a risk even for adult.
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sorry to hear that, this is always a risk even for adult.
Quite right. This past Labor Day weekend I was in the same location and followed the communications of the Suffolk County Police and a boat that had a fellow suffering a heart attack. There were also at least one Doctor and Nurse on their boats who were able to assist.

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We carry a full pharmacy and can take care of just about anything from sepsis to a M.I. But it’s not that that’s the limiting factor. It’s diagnostic skill set and treatment.
I’m a doc. Wife’s a RN but even we aren’t at decreased risk. You need services you can’t get on a boat. An OR, imaging, cultures, life support and specialty care among others.
This June I had a soft tissue infection. I put myself on antibiotics. It didn’t respond. Treatment in Grenada was dismal and went septic. Wife had to do my chores and fell 10’ off the boat breaking her foot in three places. We got on a plane and got treatment in a tertiary hospital. Saved my life. Made it possible for her to be ambulatory without deficit.
No cruising carries risk. Risk is manageable. It’s not inappropriate to home school on a cruising boat. It is without basic skills, supplies and a evacuation plan.

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My children survived camping in the forest, bicycling across a big city on a regular basis, motorcycling in the wild and many other risky behaviors including boats and water.

Read this: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/21/w...-children.html
read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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