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All this discussion reinforces my view that you really need to know what you’re doing to own a metal boat, and most especially an Al one. Or indeed a wood-hull boat.
I suppose there are a few extra considerations, but I try to keep in mind that this was apparently an unsurveyed, largely home built boat. I don't think this thread is a fair representation of metal boats in general.

If this thread had been about the keel falling off a poorly maintained fibreglass boat, or somebody having issues with a fibreglass boat that was furnished in some ones backyard and purchased sight unseen with no survey, I don't think we would come to the conclusion that all fibreglass boats are problematic?
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I suppose there are a few extra considerations, but I try to keep in mind that this was apparently an unsurveyed, largely home built boat. I don't think this thread is a fair representation of metal boats in general.

If this thread had been about the keel falling off a poorly maintained fibreglass boat, or somebody having issues with a fibreglass boat that was furnished in some ones backyard and purchased sight unseen with no survey, I don't think we would come to the conclusion that all fibreglass boats are problematic?
I don’t mean to say metal boats are necessarily problematic. But just like with wood boats, they require a certain skill set, knowledge, and willingness/ability to do certain tasks that are not as widely known — at least not compared to that needed to maintain a fibreglass boat. My perception is that aluminum really is in its own category, or perhaps closer to a wood hull than a steel boat, when it comes to necessary skill and effort required.

From my own perspective, I would consider owning a steel boat. I would never touch a wood or aluminum boat. Not b/c they’re not good materials. Just that I recognize I don’t have the skills, or the abilities, required to maintain them.

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From my own perspective, I would consider owning a steel boat. I would never touch a wood or aluminum boat. Not b/c they’re not good materials. Just that I recognize I don’t have the skills, or the abilities, required to maintain them.
I must admit if I had (much) deeper pockets the modern generation of Aluminium expedition yachts from the likes of Garcia and OVNI really appeal to me.

Speculating here, but I wonder if they also appealed to Nike and although Karl is a far cry form A Garcia Expedition 45 maybe the intent was to find a budget option?

As for Nike I think in general she has been pretty honest about admitting how she would of done things differently. I wonder if over a beer with Mark she wouldn't largely agree with everything he has said?

I think seeing the hardwork and heartbreak that can be part of this lifestyle in these videos is a pretty genuine portrayal for the new to cruising. I personally think it is a credit to her that she is still going 4 years later through persistence and hard work.


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Re: Devastatingly sad video: "The End of The Dream"

I put my 65 Mustang into a tree but I don't recall asking others for donations to repair it...that's the rub for me.
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I don’t mean to say metal boats are necessarily problematic. But just like with wood boats, they require a certain skill set, knowledge, and willingness/ability to do certain tasks that are not as widely known — at least not compared to that needed to maintain a fibreglass boat. My perception is that aluminum really is in its own category, or perhaps closer to a wood hull than a steel boat, when it comes to necessary skill and effort required.

From my own perspective, I would consider owning a steel boat. I would never touch a wood or aluminum boat. Not b/c they’re not good materials. Just that I recognize I don’t have the skills, or the abilities, required to maintain them.
Short, well, written and to the point Mike. I have to think this is what the OP was getting at.
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I put my 65 Mustang into a tree but I don't recall asking others for donations to repair it...that's the rub for me.
I guess it comes down to how you make the distinction between 'donation' and 'funding'.

Plenty of cruising folk are now trying to use Youtube, blogs, Instagram and platforms like Patreon to help fund their adventures.

As others have said it takes considerable time and effort to make these videos, in return the idea is that if you enjoy them and want to support what they are doing there is a platform to do that.

I wonder other than technology, how different that is from say the Pardey's writing articles and books to help fund their dreams back in the day?

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I guess it comes down to how you make the distinction between 'donation' and 'funding'.

Plenty of cruising folk are now trying to use Youtube, blogs, Instagram and platforms like Patreon to help fund their adventures.

As others have said it takes considerable time and effort to make these videos, in return the idea is that if you enjoy them and want to support what they are doing there is a platform to do that.

I wonder other than technology, how different that is from say the Pardey's writing articles and books to help fund their dreams back in the day?
I looked at Nike's Pateron numbers. She has about 280 or so Paterons. They can give a little as a dollar for each video unless she has some bigger contributors she is not making a lot from that service. Others like S/V Delos have several thousand Paterons at a minimum of $3 per video.
She does have 58,000 You Tube subscribers which can bring in some bucks but, as this Canadian Police Officer explains it's not so easy or lucrative:

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this Canadian Police Officer explains it's not so easy or lucrative:

Good thoughts in the video. Comes back to time to edit problem again.


BTW with 280 Patreons x $1 x 1 vid per week = $1,000 per month. I thought $1k per month was the holy grail of cruising budgets?
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Canada looks cold

And yes the video is largely right. Youtube doesn't make you money. Patreon was a bit of game changer sure and now a few of the more popular channels have moved from 'youtube pocket money' to more substantial funding.

The rub for me is the time to edit and energy invested. You also have to keep 'engaging' the audience. You have to keep trying to be interesting.

I mostly just wanna go cruising.

I have made a couple of videos and put them up on youtube. I might make a couple more. However I'm 38 years old, nearly bald and almost never wear a bikini when I'm sailing. My boat is average and I intend on doing some fun but largely rather average things so I can't see Youtube or Patreon paying for my new Mainsail anytime soon

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I mostly just wanna go cruising.
What a stupid idea.





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