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cruel story behind the earliest surviving English seachart

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This is a short video I made, 5 min. I stumbled upon it while did the research for my Sailing Guide for the Netherlands.

https://youtu.be/0K1Jafd7UVU
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Re: cruel story behind the oldest european seacharts

Interesting story. The subtitles go by way too fast in many cases. I'm a fast reader, but if I didn't look down immediately, they disappeared. I found myself having to choose between perusing the video or reading the subtitles.
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Thank you for your answer, I think you are right. I'll let my scottish neighbor do a version with voice over.
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Re: cruel story behind the oldest european seacharts

It is a fun to watch video but I do not believe that it is accurate to call that the first chart. I think that the earliest western charts were thought to be Phoenician. I also think that the Romans made harbor charts and that the Moors also used simple charts that probably pre-date Henry the VIII. The Chinese were early adopters of primitive compasses and so I would suspect that they might also have had some form of navigational chart.

Beyond that, Henry VIII was born in 1491. The Spanish and Portuguese explorers predate him and also probably did some charting. Portugal's Prince Henry the navigator predates Henry VIII by close to 100 years and his explorers definitely made charts.

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Re: cruel story behind the oldest european seacharts

My title is not accurate but:

This is my source:


https://www.academia.edu/12577012/Ch...text_1500-1660

The earliest surviving English chart was drawn by John Borough in 1539 (figs.58.1 and 58.2). This rough sketch of the channel into the Zuiderzee was drawn on the reconnaissance mission by Borough and Richard Couch. The sketch was incorporated into a chart of the southern North Sea, Zuiderzee, and eastern English Channel.

The oldest original cartographic artifact in the Library of Congress: a portolan nautical chart of the Mediterranean Sea. Second quarter of the 14th century.

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Absolutely no doubt that the Portuguese predate this with physical charts. The evidence is hard. Even Columbus used their charts in the Caribbean.
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Re: cruel story behind the oldest european seacharts

Most, if not all the old archived (incl stolen and secret) Portugese charts were lost in a Tsunami in 1750 that hit Lisbon.

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