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Yeah, that piece of the chart has always grab my attention too. Not sure if you cross the pink border the CG or Navy is going to show up with their heavy duty equipped patrol vessels.

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I figured that the claims of unexploded ordinance were greatly exaggerated. It's used as a justification to provide the birds their piece of land where they won't be bothered.
Still, I wouldn't drop the anchor near by...just in case
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The island is completely closed to the public.

https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Nomans_La...and/about.html

I hate the BS wildlife scam. This is simply a quarantined island with unexploded ordinance that the government isn't willing to clean up. They should clean it up and give it back for public use or even sell it for private use.

No doubt we need gunnery ranges somewhere, but then own up.
I agree they should clean it up which it appears they may have done. Though I am all about having islands and land where people are restricted due to wildlife habitat. There are very few places in the world that people don't completely dominate and or drastically alter. The USA has virtually no wild lands that don't have cattle, logging, roads etc etc. Humans are a parasite and if we have to say there is a ton of exploded ordinance to keep people out then so be it. I have traveled to many of the most remote places in the continental USA and have worked as a wildlife biologist. It is a major understatement that humans screw up the ecosystem on enormous and catastrophic scales.

I have also worked on military bases where unexplored ordinance was an issue. We could survey the areas but need an escort and would set up point count locations and follow one way in and out. Some ordinance is live and some are not but I like my life and my legs and am content to not take the risk.
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I do share and understand the fascination with all of the locations where we are not supposed to go or is rarely visited.
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We've got a similar place just south of Victoria. Lovely spot ,used to be the leper colony ,apparently still used by army to practice throwing hand grenades at each other. The lovely bay on the west side is studded with old pilings broken off at the low water mark so beware if you are planning to lunch hook there. Don't ask.
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