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Re: Yanmar Starter Issue

I bought a starter from spider marine and it looked right fit, perfect not spin would not spin the motor fast enough to start the YSM 8. Shipping was fast and the price was good .......Dale
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Happy ending of sorts. I got back to Stonington in the morning. They sent a mechanic out to troubleshoot and he was very good. He had the starter out on short time and it was toast. I found one at the low end of retail, like 429$. It's Friday, I was a guest in another marina, and risking trying to overnight a cheaper part over a holiday weekend seemed silly.

I drove to get the part and he had it back in and hooked up in 10 minutes.

Yes, I could have done it myself but as it turned out I didn't have long enough socket extensions, etc plus he found that my battery switch is shot. It would have taken me a month to track that down.

Mechanic said that the bearing in the starter was shot and also it was suffering from low voltage due to the bad battery switch.

Labor bill from Dodsons Marina was $125 and they didn't charge me a transient fee for the mooring. You can't beat that with a stick.

Dodsons and their mechanics get two thumbs up and a circle snap.

I'll see if I can get the old one rebuilt and keep it as a spare.

Thanks for all your replies.
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Dotsons is a great company . We always stop there on our LI Trip. I marvel at all the Hinkleys and Morrisis wax jobs on the moorings a la Dotson. Glad it worked out for you


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Got a volt meter? I'd measure the battery voltage while cranking at the battery, then again at the starter. Any large difference, maybe .5 volts or so, I'd be looking at the wires, connections and battery switch for corrosion. Voltage ok? Pull the starter, take it a shop, maybe its time for a rebuild. Could be new brushes are all that you need. Arc could be from the brushes.
Unfortunately, I could not find my volt meter, I must have loaned it out....

Anyway, that's exactly what the mechanic did and he found the problem at the battery selector switch. The plastic body is cracked, leading to a weak connection at #1 (my starting battery).

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Rob, could you tell where the arc was? A connector, the solenoid, or in the starter motor?

I suspect your batts are good, and either bad connection, bad solenoid or bad starter motor.
seems it was both a bad connection and a bad starter motor! Thanks!

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You have 12.3 volts with no load, or loaded? Loaded being trying to start the engine, key on, starter button pushed down. And where did you measure the 12.3? Smoke? What did it smell like? If this was happening to me and the battery voltage was around 12.3 while trying to start, and there was very little voltage drop between the battery and the starter, I would pull the starter, take it to an automobile alternator starter rebuild shop. Its nothing more than a DC motor, not rocket science. I burnt a brush off my windlass down in Florida this year. Took the motor apart, went to a alternator/starter rebuild shop, procured a brush that would fit after filing on it for awhile, installed it and now windlass is as good as new. Getting the brushes around the armature is always a pain. The smoke could have come from the burning insulation on the windings. Not a good thing, but the motor can be rewound.
The voltage reading actually came from my chart plotter. The battery switch was on "ALL" at the end of my struggles, just as I called for the launch to get me before they went home for the night.

The mechanic said that trying to start the engine with a dead short in the starter probably depleted the batteries pretty quickly.

On other person at Dodson's I forgot to mention was the Launch driver that night. I called as I saw him locking up the shed to go home for the night. He went back inside and answered the radio and more or less came out on his own time to pick us up.

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Glad it worked out for you. Yes Dodson's is a rare beast today. Good people and great service at a fair price. I stop there every summer on our trek east.
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Glad it worked for you. Great story.

Here's some other info that may be helpful to you in the future.

Replacing engine starter switch on a H31 | SailboatOwners.com Forums
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Glad it worked for you. Great story.

Here's some other info that may be helpful to you in the future.

Replacing engine starter switch on a H31 | SailboatOwners.com Forums
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