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Need to replace the primary pedestal mounted multifunction display (Raymarine a95) on a boat with virtually all Raymarine electronics (radar, ais, autopilot, wind vane, etc.) installed on RM SeaTalk network. Is there any point in looking at manufacturers other than Raymarine for a new MFD, or am a just asking for headaches trying to make them work with other RM components on the SeaTalk network?
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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

You can create a NMEA 2000 backbone to have all the components talk to each other and use other manufacturers . Simplicity would be use a Raymarine product if you like the MFD they have . Most large brands are very similar.


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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

Raymarine Seatalk NG is NMEA 2000 with smaller diameter NMEA 2000 connectors than most other vendors use. The smaller diameter cables makes them easier to pull through the boat. Integrating it with other NMEA 2000 devices should require an adapter cable. I have a Vesper Marine AIS transponder integrated into the Seatalk network on my boat, and it works flawlessly.

The a95 is a touch screen ONLY MFD. I do not reccomend touchscreen only at the pedestal or binnacle of a sailboat because the touch screen will get confused when wet (rain or splashes). An Axiom Pro might be a better choice.


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Raymarine Seatalk NG is NMEA 2000 with smaller diameter NMEA 2000 connectors than most other vendors use. The smaller diameter cables makes them easier to pull through the boat. Integrating it with other NMEA 2000 devices should require an adapter cable. I have a Vesper Marine AIS transponder integrated into the Seatalk network on my boat, and it works flawlessly.

The a95 is a touch screen ONLY MFD. I do not reccomend touchscreen only at the pedestal or binnacle of a sailboat because the touch screen will get confused when wet (rain or splashes). An Axiom Pro might be a better choice.
I agree that touchscreen-only is an issue, as is cost. Pro is another $1k+. Also have a Navpod with 9inch a95 MFD and two i70s, so i don't think there is room or adapter plate available to go from a95 to Axiom Pro.

I've got a couple of plan B's. We've got a small Garmin chartplotter installed below (not on the network) and I always sail with a backup nav package on my iPhone and iPad.

There is also a Raymarine iPhone app that mimics the Pro keyboard and allows you to control the MFD via wifi. Have never tried that and have no idea how practical that might be since you have to be able to lock the touchscreen and the iPhone is going to get wet, too.
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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

Hello,

The touch screen of my B&G vulcan 7 works fine in the rain.

My friend has a Raymarine plotter, I forget the model but it's pretty new. It has buttons and touch screen. I don't recall issues with the touch screen in the rain on that unit either.

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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

Put any two vendors in the same room and they will always blame the other guy, whenever there is an issue. It can and does work to integrate vendors, but you’re the test pilot.


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Put any two vendors in the same room and they will always blame the other guy, whenever there is an issue. It can and does work to integrate vendors, but you’re the test pilot.
This sounds like it should be true, but after 8 years of mixed vendor systems on two boats, no vendor has blamed the others when I needed technical support or service on their part of the system.

They all do blame power supply and network topology first, however.

As for touchscreen only, I used to share the opinion of not wanting this. However, we have had a Garmin and a Furuno touchscreen only, and neither have given any problems or presented any issue in use.

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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

RE: touchscreen - I have a RayMarine eS78 at the helm and the touchscreen sometimes gets confused when it has rain or spray on it. In November 2019 I did a delivery on a boat with a Garmin touch screen unit - not sure of the model. It was bitterly cold, and needed to wear gloves while at the helm. The touchscreen did not respond if I was wearing full fingered sailing gloves. YMMV


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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

I've got a Garmin connected to ST 60's that works well, I don't know if RM Radar can be connected to MFD's from other brands, above my paygrade. I think Ray uses some kind of ethernet but haven't researched it enough yet to figure out compatibility.

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Re: non-Raymarine products on Raymarine SeaTalk network?

Radar is specific to the chartplotter. That is a good point for the OP. If he wants to keep his current radome, then he needs to stick with Raymarine. If his radome is too old for RM's new plotters, then he can go with any manufacturer combination, but will need to replace the radome regardless.

Gloves are a good point about touchscreens. If one needs to use gloves, then touchscreens are not a viable option.

Some touchscreen plotters have optional control pads for them.

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