MaineSail.... Sorry you feel this way... But others were just as rude citing 'Darwin Awards' and stupidity for using these generators... those aren't my words... maybe look back at some of the comments... I'm sure they were just as rude and unnecessary as well... we're all not stupid idiots here are we?
If my post came off to sound as if folks who choose to use these are "stupid" that was not my intent at all. I can see how using the term Darwin Award
could suggest people being stupid or dumb but it was not my intent. My intent was more about the end result state
your body could be in. I apologize if it sounded as if I was referring to all portable genny users as stupid or dumb..
It was to suggest folks could wind up DEAD
. Many smart people
have died from CO poisoning.
My point was that the use of these quite often has folks thinking
they are safer than they really are. Folks are easily lulled into a sense of safety by others using them or 10 uses and no death etc.. One could certainly wind up in a Darin Award state
(meaning dead), as has happened, if not careful.
The "station wagon effect" is real on boats both at anchor and underway and sadly it is rarely if ever talked about..
My point was if she has done the portable generator use why do some question it if they themselves do not have one? Why not take her advice as well as others that ACTUALLY have the Hondas or other generators and instead of ranting about the use and the knowledge of the user why not let it go? Why not buy one and go through the paces of using one before questioning the ability or experience of users of these generators,
Why are the opinions of those of us who do have them
, and choose not to use them
, apparently discounted or not as valid or valuable in terms of input?
I personally won't use my portable gas Honda EU2000 on board our boat. I do own one
and have made that decision for myself and family. Even with a marine CO detector, which we have, I still choose to not use it.
When I have to use my EU2000, for working on customers boats, (I try to avoid it at all costs but most of my customers are on moorings) I carry a Safe-T-Alert CO detector with me and tap it into the ships 12V. Even though I often run the EU2K in my Maritime Skiff, tied to the back of a customers boat, at 15' to 20' off, it has set off the CO detector twice most likely due to station wagon effect.
I just don't believe these are as safe as the masses would have us believe and yes, I do own one
. I do believe the use of portable genny's is not as safe as many assume it is but that is jut my apparently discounted/invalid
Can they be used pretty safely or more safely? Absolutely, but there is still risk. Until I see everyone using one in a safe manner
and who also have a Xintex or Safe-T-Alert Marine UL CO detector, you'll see me cautioning their use.
My main point is that folks need to use these SAFELY and many do not, heck most
I have seen do not. Does this make the users "stupid"? Absolutely not just perhaps not as well informed about safe use as they should or could be and this could put them in a Darwin Award state
, which means dead
Honestly, show of hands,
how many here, with a portable genny, have a less than 5 year old (they expire) Xintex or Safe-T-Alert Marine UL CO detector?
I was on a boat last August and checked the residential grade Smoke/CO detector and found NO BATTERIES. When I asked the owner, who also has a Honda EU2000, why no batteries,
"Oh the galley stove sets the smoke detector off too much.
We then had a long conversation about CO, using proper detectors etc, and he now has a Safe-T-Alert... This guy is not stupid but could have been dead because he "forgot
" to put the batteries back in.. Forgot
is not being stupid,
it happens to even the smartest among us, but it could still wind up with he or his wife in a permanently horizontal state...