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Markwesti 02-27-2014 12:18 PM

Genny sleeve
 
In my case it would be a Yankee sleeve . I was looking in the Sailnet store and came across The ATN Genoa Sleeve . There were a couple of vids on it , I think I'll get one . So question is do any of you own one ? Like it ? Thanks .

Multihullgirl 02-27-2014 12:41 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
I have one. It's okay, but it does whip some in high winds. It's easy to use. The video pretty much shows it.

If the winds blew harder here, and the sacrificial edge weren't so much an issue in these light winds, I'd probably have just had a sacrificial edge sewn on.

sailingfool 02-27-2014 12:52 PM

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I've used genoa sleeves on a set of sailing club Harbor 20s. The use of a sleeve adds about 15 minutes to the getting underway/closing up time and I considered this practice a real pain. These weren't my boats... If you are using one on a sail that is not regularly deployed, fine, but otherwise I think it a bad idea except for the hardcore racer who wants the perfect sail despite the inconvenience.

barefootnavigator 02-27-2014 01:01 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
Perhaps I'm missing something here but I can hank a sail on in about 5 minutes and bag it in the same. So we go to roller furling to make life easy but the weight of the all purpose sail hinders our boats sailing ability, heavy sheets, heavy cloth, luff tape and foam not to mention expense. Now finally some brilliant people are figuring this all out. Why not just use a hank on sail that is the appropriate size with proper sized sheets and sail cloth for half the cost. Drop it on deck and stuff it in a deck bag. You might be surprised at how fast and wonderful your boat sails with hank-on sails.
I have not used this system but I can tell you I'm way to lazy to use it, the end result would be more UV damage to my sailing because I would be tempted to leave them un covered till the end of my trip. What about offshore when you couldn't or wouldn't want to use this system, your sail would be at the mercy 24 hours a day for weeks on end. I'm very interested in this thread and people re results, great topic.

Markwesti 02-27-2014 01:32 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
Alan thanks for the post . I'm not really sure I understand it . For many yrs. I had a hank on Yankee and I still have a hank on staysail with a club boom . The Yankee while not a big sail, it is big enough that bagging it was a bit of a chore and also having to do it out on the sprit didn't make it any easier . My Yankee has a cover sewn on that is very light and not expected to last like Sunbrella . I'm going to have it removed , and I don't really want Sunbrella .

Faster 02-27-2014 01:43 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
One other issue with these sleeves, esp in a typically windy area, is the flapping of the sleeve can chafe on and wear out the exposed side of the stitching of the sail. I've seen some sew elastic into the sleeve every several feet to slow down the flapping, but that also increases the pressure locally on the stitching.

If it's unusual for your marina or mooring to be regularly windy this is not such a concern.

barefootnavigator 02-27-2014 01:49 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
I guess my question is don't you still have to go out on the sprite to raise the sock? Isn't raising the sock more work than generally stuffing a sail into a bag? It seems like more work and yet another added expense to roller furling. What about in a super rolly anchorage like Descanso or at sea? Taking the sumbrella off the sail will reduce quite a bit of weight but you still are flying in general a one size fits all sail which will rarely fit the bill. I'm not pushing pro or con on roller furling just asking if this isn't yet another job to perform before and after every trip.

Multihullgirl 02-27-2014 02:02 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
The ATN sock has a drawstring to tighten it close to the sail. And no, it's easier to raise this sock than drop, flake and bag the jib, at least on my boat

Markwesti 02-27-2014 02:42 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
All good thoughts thank you . I think I'm starting to lean toward just getting the light weight cloth sewn back on . It lasted 13yrs. The ATN sleeve looks pretty good and is really engineered well . Watch the vids . But yes you are right Alan it would be extra work , down the line I might regret it . Descanso ? Joking right ?

knuterikt 02-27-2014 04:44 PM

Re: Genny sleeve
 
I have a similar sleeve since we have roller furling and more than one sail without built in sun cover it made sense. It will protect the sail better than a sun screen against polluted air.
The compression strings stops the cover from flapping and moving.

We have a small bag we can tie on to the pulpit while hoisting or taking down easier to stow than a long length of canvass.
This video show how easy it is, note that there was some wind..



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