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PFD with harness

I typically sail solo most of the time and am thinking about getting an automatic PFD with built in harness. Currently use an automatic PFD most of the time but do not have a harness. Was looking at a Mustang brand but thinking I remember reading that there was a problem with them. Any recommendations?

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Re: PFD with harness

Mustang HIT with harness is one of the best ones out there:

Mustang HIT Inflatable Life Jacket / PFD

I haven't heard of problems with Mustang. There have been some concerns expressed about the design of the Spinlock Deckvest:

https://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...ml#post1288169

https://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...ml#post1387161
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Re: PFD with harness

I'm not aware of a problem with Mustang PFDs. That's what I have (the hydrostatic one) and it has served me well, comfortable to wear, etc.


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Re: PFD with harness

Go to shop put different ones on and wear them as long as sales people let you. Like shoes it will be on you for awhile. Had one with the salt pellet trigger go off once. Surprised me as I was still on the boat. Buy the ones with hydrostatic triggers. Worth the extra money.

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Re: PFD with harness

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Yes, an inflatable PFD with integrated harness is the way to go.

I strongly urge you to make or purchase a crotch or thigh straps to wear with it. My research of late, indicates that inflatables can rise off of the wearer's head, and do not maintain the wearer in the proper position without a crotch strap.

See this recent video: MOB in the Pacific

Also, I believe that crew members of Low Speed Chase from last year's Farallones race were found separated from their PFD's. The conclusion was a lack of crotch straps allowed the PFDs to slip off of unconscious wearers.

As a fellow singlehander, I advise you to also develop a jackline and tether solution for your boat (thus, the purpose of the harness).

Sorry to go all "nanny-state" on you, shipmate. Just tryina' keep you on da boat.

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Re: PFD with harness

We have five Mustang PFDs. Two with harnesses, two we wear 90% of the time and one guest one.

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Re: PFD with harness

Interesting point about crotch strap. Sounds right. How does the belt slip over the shoulders? I can see it not holding the unconscious cob in a bad position.


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Re: PFD with harness

As pointed out, a crotch strap is mandatory on an inflatable, in part to prevent the bladder from riding over your head. This is a controversial issue at the moment, but I do believe that crotch straps are mandatory.

As an integrated harness (such as the Spinlock that we use), it wouldn't be a harness at all without the crotch straps in place, would it. It would just be a life jacket with a D ring.


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Re: PFD with harness

Problem is we blew the money on crotch straps but can't get anyone to wear them day to day. Too much a pia putting on/ off watch by watch. Most don't like harness on when down below for head break, fix a snack etc. most don't like strap on when moving about.
This is something that needs a serious redesign. Harness should have netting on back. Spread force of a fall and be more comfy. Should have leads to separate thigh straps so jewels not pinched moving about. Tender should come off back near neck so don't drown if dragged. Double( long/ short) harness should clip to that short webbing about a foot down so you can disengage without reaching behind neck.
This is a peeve of mine Sorry
People die because they don't have harnesses. People die because they do . WTF

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Re: PFD with harness

I don't find the spinlock crotch straps to be very difficult, nor unusually uncomfortable. Sure, a pair of shorts and t-shirt are more comfy. The thigh straps each have a quick release buckle, which I've already set to my size, so on/off is pretty easy.

There is a lot more to deck safety than just the harness. The tether and jackline are equally critical. There should be little to no risk that you could get far enough overboard to be dragged.


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