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Re: We just cannot get it apart

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If it still will not come apart. Take it off the boat and to a machine shop and have them vat it. Caustic soda will disolve anything except metal. You will need new springs, O-rings, gasgets, may haps even roller bearings, but it should come apart.
I think that's the point. They ARE trying to get it off the boat first.
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Re: We just cannot get it apart

I believe that the gold stuff is Copper Grease, which I used to swear by in the UK when every fastener on a car would otherwise sieze solid in less than a year, due to the constant onslaught of water and salt. Aluminium to steel joints were particularly problematic. In California I still use it but the need is not so great.

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Re: We just cannot get it apart

How 'bout something like a concrete stinger vibrator:

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Re: We just cannot get it apart

Sometimes you've just got to say "No more Mr Nice Guy"

Drill a hole right through the shaft. Insert a long bolt. Apply upwards pressure on the bolt (hit with lump hammer upwards), while applying constant pressure (line around the bolt, pull on it with the main halyard). I bet it will come off.

I also think there might be scope to clamp a bearing puller under the grooved part of the shaft, and then proceed as above.

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You could try Kroil

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Re: We just cannot get it apart

I agree an impact wrench is in order. As much heat as you can apply as well. Also you could try Coca-Cola on the rusty bits.

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Re: We just cannot get it apart

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Sounds a little over played! Scrap them, really glued together with epoxy? $ 8000.00? Try old junk!..Not even self tailing!..... Who needs instructions to take apart and service a winch?.....Dale
I'll tell you what, Dale. You guaranty to get both winches apart without destroying anything and I'll fly you down to do the job. LOL
Of course if you fail, instructions or not, and you screw up a couple of 8k winches that work just fine, you can replace them at YOUR expense. Should I book the ticket today?
And yes, epoxy, and some elbow grease. Check out the two pics below.
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Re: We just cannot get it apart

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How about one of those high-speed vibrating tools. They come with a number of blades one of which is a thin scraper. I use the scraper to remove a lot of things on boats that nothing else will break loose. Just fire it up and shove it down where you've been pushing that putty knife. Mine's a Dremel Multi Max but I know Bosch makes a similar tool. It works with both the vibrating action and the heat it builds up locally from friction. Try it it may work.
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Thanks wfish. Had one onboard the whole time, but never thought of it. An hour with that tool and it just popped apart. You can bet it's going back together with lots of anti-seize! Funny, it doesn't look all that corroded. What a great glue that would make!
Sorry, Dale, no plane ticket to the Caribbean this week.
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Great to see a dilemma solved! Way to go Wfish11.

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Re: We just cannot get it apart

Don't worry so much about slathering on the anti-seize, just service the things annually and they'll always be free.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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