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Nice boat. Would probably cost as much to get it to me....

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I like the other B34 more, as it has traveler in the cockpit and better general condition. The Swan 36 is a kickass boat but at that price it likely has some serious issues, like leaky teak deck. These boats go for 60 grand when they look nice and survey well.
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Yeah, I limited my search to Fibreglass. Notable seems to be that the northeast (where I live) seems to have higher prices for older boats.
Less use due to the short season and lots of respect for tradition.

Great Lakes boats seem to fetch high prices in the same way - short season and fresh water there.

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An Ericson 46 for $25K? I'd want that surveyed very carefully - the coffee grinders are worth that.

I have always lusted after those boats, ever since they were new but I've seen blogs of what they can need - like new bulkheads for starters. You could drop $100K in very short order even doing the work yourself.

Not exactly a short handed boat either - IIRC they raced with 12 crew.

And it's in Fla. so it'll be sunburned on the outside too.

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1963 LeComte Northeast 38 Sail Boat For Sale - Boats for Sale - New and Used Boats and Yachts - YachtWorld.com is beautiful! as is the Niagara

Not a CCA boat but is really cool for the money:
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I didn't limit to CCA boats intentionally as Jeff said 'better designs for the money' (or something close- I'm tired of trying to be precise when there isn't a substantive difference). I, frankly, don't really know what that means and think it is very subjective. One person might want the lowest PHRF, another might rank by capsize screen, another aesthetics. I think they're all valid as long as they are valid for the owner.
The Swan might be exactly what he was talking about. A boat well under market that you could make spectacular. It certainly wasn't for sale 5 years ago or I'd have looked at it.
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Less use due to the short season and lots of respect for tradition.

Great Lakes boats seem to fetch high prices in the same way - short season and fresh water there.
I was thinking, my location could be the reason I haven't seen any(that I recall) 60's on up built hulls from the production builders, being scrapped for strutural reasons. I'm only considering larger sailboats beyond say 26 or 27 feet.

I have seen a few smaller ones scrapped for simple none value. It's amazing how low prices have gone on some neglected and less popular designs, some newer than you might expect.

Those being scrapped may be in warmer areas where they end up in the water year round. That plus lack of maintenance could be aging the glass faster?

That may be one way to extend the life of an older boat-use it seasonally which allows it to dry out for the half the season? Blisters for instance, are more prevalent in year round use areas.

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Less use due to the short season and lots of respect for tradition.

Great Lakes boats seem to fetch high prices in the same way - short season and fresh water there.
I was thinking, my location could be the reason I haven't seen any(that I recall) 60's on up built hulls from the production builders, being scrapped for strutural reasons. I'm only considering larger sailboats beyond say 26 or 27 feet.

I have seen a few smaller ones scrapped for simple none value. It's amazing how low prices have gone on some neglected and less popular designs, some newer than you might expect.

Those being scrapped may be in warmer areas where they end up in the water year round. That plus lack of maintenance could be aging the glass faster?

That may be one way to extend the life of an older boat-use it seasonally which allows it to dry out for the half the season? Blisters for instance, are more prevalent in year round use areas.
There is also the UV degradation issue, which is less prominent up here both because people tend to wax as a yearly prep ritual and because they are under cover for 6-7 months. Doesn't change the way they were built, however.
I do wonder if stated reasons for scrapping are like death certificates- you have to put something down but it's rarely the whole story. That's why I wondered what the major structural issue was. Are we talking cracks in the hull that could have been repaired, but wasn't "worth it"? Or catastrophic failure of the deck to hull joint? Or totaled by insurance but could have been rehabbed if the market wasn't so depressed? I'm sure Jeff will be back to tell us at some point.

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I've seen a couple of "good" boats cut up - a Cal 25 for one - that were simply too scruffy to use and no-one stepped up in time to save them from the villainous boatyard owner who wanted the space back for paying customers.

Most have been too far gone to save though - went on the rocks, collision damage etc. I actually haven't seen many boats cut up that I would be willing to take on and I'm a major sucker for an orphan in need.

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