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Mainesail does have a donate button on his website. You cant send beer but you can send money. Besides, any beer sent now for his daughters college fund would go very flat by the time she can drink it.
I went to look and couldn't find it. It's not on the home page, nor the on the page he linked above. Maybe my ad blocker is hiding it?

Then, it occurred to me. I bought the SmartGauge from MS.

I've also purchase butyl from him over the years. So, it's really a customer inquiry.


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Could you clarify this test? You tested the actual voltage of the batts, with a separate meter and compared it to the reading on the gauge, presumably with the charger off? If I even have this right, how far off was it?
He asked me to check battery voltage at the terminals and then at the connections at the SmartGuage.The idea was to see just exactly what voltage was being supplied to the instrument. I had about 13 volts at the battery and wiring was new and delivering that to the terminals on the device, but it's screen was displaying 9. something.
The menus were not working right to display anything else, either.

It was good that they honored their warranty, but I admit to being irked that I had to pay rather big $$ to send and insure it to their "service center" when all they were going to do was ship a new one to me anyway.
This is not an inexpensive item, and IMHO it's more normal for high-end computer and peripheral builders to pay for shipping or even "cross ship" a new device to the customer.

OK time to stop grumbling. At least Now it works.

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Re: New Balmar SmartGuage experience

There is a newer SmartGauge. It's 119 UKL Vat inc in the UK.

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I wonder if it is smarter.
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There is a newer SmartGauge. It's 119 UKL Vat inc in the UK.

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I wonder if it is smarter.
That is the real Smartgauge, Balmar is just putting their own label on it for the US market.
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That is the real Smartgauge, Balmar is just putting their own label on it for the US market.

Balmar is the North American market distributor for the SmartGauge.

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Re: New Balmar SmartGuage experience

UKL 119 inc 20% VAT would be UKL 99 ex-VAT or $130. The Balmar list price is $400.
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Re: New Balmar SmartGuage experience

Update....... still not sure the Smartguage is acting smartly.

Since my OP, I've changed out my Xantrex inverter charger for a Magnum 2800w inverter/charger. For starters, I love the Magnum so far. Much better inverter, charger and remote.

Over the winter, I pulled the fuse on the Smartguage to avoid any parasitic load. I don't know if that messed anything up. It no longer reads anything near 100% charge at any time. Not even after plugged in for a week. The Magnum remote reads Full Charge, while the smartgauge will read anything from 70% to maybe 80%. I've also tried to run the batts down, when cruising, to 12.2 volts (as read on the Magnum remote and confirmed on the Smartguage), just to get some range for the gauge to follow and learn. It has read in the 40% capacity range, when I still had 12.2-12.4 volts in the batts.

Bottom line, it never reads full, when I know it's full and it seems to read much lower capacity than I think it really has.

Is there a hard restart I should do to start over?


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Re: New Balmar SmartGuage experience

The hard reset on the SmartGauge is to pull the negative wire from the back, wait a minute, and then re-connect. The SmartGauge will display the error message "E01", until you push any button.
I suggest that you re-program the battery type to match the batteries that you have installed;
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The battery types are numbered 1 to 7 and are as follows:
• Type 1 - Standard wet cell deep cycle Lead Acid - Use this setting for:-
1. Standard vented Lead Acid deep cycle
2. Lead acid recombinant (have a catalyzer in the cap to recombine the oxygen and hydrogen back into water that is normally lost during charging in a standard Lead Acid battery). Do not confuse with VRLA (AGM or Gel).
• Type 2 - Gel Cell - Use this setting only for Gel Cells
• Type 3- AGM - Absorbed Glass Matt (VRLA)
1. Use only for genuine AGM batteries. NOTE: There are two very distinct types of AGM batteries with very different operational characteristics. In one type the only real difference is that the electrolyte is held in a glass matt. This type usually have charge voltages very similar to flooded wet cell batteries. The offload terminal voltages will also be very similar to flooded wet cell batteries. If your AGM batteries are of this type then Smartgauge should be set to battery type 1.
2. The other type of AGM have additional chemicals in the battery and require lower charge voltages and the off load terminal voltages will be similar to gel cells. This type require Smartgauge to be set to battery type 3.
• Type 4 – HYBRID (Also known as Antimony/Calcium or Hi-Calcium.)
1. Usually identified by being sealed but the acid inside the battery is still liquid. Many are fitted with a ‘magic eye’ to give an approximate indication of battery condition. Usually marked maintenance free and its normally not possible to open the top of the battery.
• Type 5 – Carbon Fiber
1. Lead/Acid batteries with Carbon Fiber additives to the plates.
• Type 6 – Maintenance free, Calcium/Calcium.
1. Marketed as a semi-traction battery.
• Type 7 – Custom Program
1. Do not select type 7 unless your Smartgauge has been supplied with a specific battery program.


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Re: New Balmar SmartGuage experience

Doesn't pulling the fuse essentially do the same thing, albeit on the positive?


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Re: New Balmar SmartGuage experience

There are TWO positive leads for two banks. Disconnect one negative or two fuses - same diff.


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