Redoing Companionway hatch - SailNet Community
 3Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 14 Old 07-21-2016 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Albany, NY / Baltimore, MD
Posts: 227
Thanks: 45
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Dock
Redoing Companionway hatch

I have an Alberg 35 with a companionway hatch that needs renewal. A PO surrounded the stock hatch with teak rails and teak planks. The planks were glued and screwed down from below with some a cosmetic cover. Over the winter, the planks (which had pretty much disintegrated) came off; one blew away. What's left is a fiberglass area with screws sticking up and the remains of whatever glue was used. I'd like a solution that makes this an easier place to stand since it's where I am to tie in reef points.

My planned solution is
1. Remove screws and glue; fill holes with epoxy.
2. Get a piece of marine plywood (approx. square 30" on a side). Measure/fit thickness to come up to top of teak side pieces with 1/8 inch gap (this would either be 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch ply).
3. Put two coats of epoxy on the plywood to seal it (include the edges).
4. Epoxy the encapsulated plywood to the hatch.
5. Paint plywood with epoxy paint.
6. Put KiwiGrip over the epoxy paint.
7. Sealant in the gap between the sides and the plywood piece.

Any advice on this plan? Does it seem sound? I have no experience with this sort of thing, so I'm watching youtube videos and getting advice online. I appreciate your time in reading this and helping me out.
Pendragon35 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 14 Old 07-21-2016
One of None
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 8,036
Thanks: 83
Thanked 193 Times in 181 Posts
Rep Power: 14
   
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

Dude, you posted this on 3 forums!

teak disintegrated?

Pics would help..

forget the wood... unless she's a wooden boat?

You are talking about the sliding companion way lid?

Get it off the boat, grind all the surfaces. fill the holes. get glass cloth wet it out with epoxy add coats until the weave is filled. Paint with good UV protecting paint. You can tint the epoxy but it still needs UV protection.

When doing glass on glass you can actually use Polyester resin and hardener in lieu of epoxy that costs more.
zeehag likes this.

"Next best thing to not having a boat? The knowledge from having one!" Denise, Bristol PA, On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
deniseO30 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to deniseO30 For This Useful Post:
Pendragon35 (07-21-2016)
post #3 of 14 Old 07-21-2016
Barquito
 
Barquito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 3,341
Thanks: 1
Thanked 87 Times in 86 Posts
Rep Power: 12
 
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

I'm assuming you can't just take the old wood off and leave the fiberglass deck uncovered? If you are going to put an additional layer of wood on top, you should use marine plywood (there are fewer voids), and cover with a layer of glass and epoxy. Wash the amine blush off with water, fair with thickened epoxy, prime, and paint. Some pictures would help to sort out the construction part.

Valiant 32
Barquito is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Barquito For This Useful Post:
Pendragon35 (07-21-2016)
 
post #4 of 14 Old 07-21-2016
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 324
Thanks: 20
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Pretty much don't see the need or the plywood. You might just clean up the glass and paint. Kiwi grip is good for non skid.
CLOSECALL is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to CLOSECALL For This Useful Post:
Pendragon35 (07-21-2016)
post #5 of 14 Old 07-21-2016
One of None
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 8,036
Thanks: 83
Thanked 193 Times in 181 Posts
Rep Power: 14
   
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

Many of those tops get walked on and flex. I know the one on my boat did. The best way to reinforce them is from the bottom side.

"Next best thing to not having a boat? The knowledge from having one!" Denise, Bristol PA, On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
deniseO30 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to deniseO30 For This Useful Post:
Pendragon35 (07-21-2016)
post #6 of 14 Old 07-21-2016 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Albany, NY / Baltimore, MD
Posts: 227
Thanks: 45
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Dock
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

Quote:
Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
Dude, you posted this on 3 forums!

teak disintegrated?

Pics would help..

forget the wood... unless she's a wooden boat?

You are talking about the sliding companion way lid?

Get it off the boat, grind all the surfaces. fill the holes. get glass cloth wet it out with epoxy add coats until the weave is filled. Paint with good UV protecting paint. You can tint the epoxy but it still needs UV protection.

When doing glass on glass you can actually use Polyester resin and hardener in lieu of epoxy that costs more.
You're right, I did post on three different fora. I thought I would get a variety of perspectives. I really appreciate you reading this and your advice.
Pendragon35 is offline  
post #7 of 14 Old 07-21-2016 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Albany, NY / Baltimore, MD
Posts: 227
Thanks: 45
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Dock
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

Quote:
Originally Posted by CLOSECALL View Post
Pretty much don't see the need or the plywood. You might just clean up the glass and paint. Kiwi grip is good for non skid.
I thought the plywood would fill space and stiffen the hatch. But from the responses, I'm getting the sense I don't need the plywood, which is great!óless to do. Thanks for reading and for your advice.
Pendragon35 is offline  
post #8 of 14 Old 07-21-2016 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Albany, NY / Baltimore, MD
Posts: 227
Thanks: 45
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Dock
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barquito View Post
I'm assuming you can't just take the old wood off and leave the fiberglass deck uncovered? If you are going to put an additional layer of wood on top, you should use marine plywood (there are fewer voids), and cover with a layer of glass and epoxy. Wash the amine blush off with water, fair with thickened epoxy, prime, and paint. Some pictures would help to sort out the construction part.
I can't take pictures right now as the boat is on the hard. The old wood is off and the deck is uncovered now. My plan was to use marine plywood. Thanks for taking the time to read this and give your advice, I appreciate it.
Pendragon35 is offline  
post #9 of 14 Old 07-21-2016
Senior Member
 
overbored's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 2,670
Thanks: 2
Thanked 196 Times in 193 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

Are we talking the fiberglass sliding hatch? on the original one there was a grab rail on each side and some had optional teak strips to make it less slippery. trying to cover the fiberglass with plywood does not sound like a good way to fix the problem. why not Kiwi grip the hatch and replace the wood slats and grab rail

"FULL TILT II" 2011 BENETEAU FIRST 30
"GOLD RUSH" PRINDLE 16
overbored is online now  
post #10 of 14 Old 07-21-2016 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Albany, NY / Baltimore, MD
Posts: 227
Thanks: 45
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Dock
Re: Redoing Companionway hatch

I found a picture that includes the hatch before it fell apart.

In the picture, you can see the flat teak boards; these have all lifted and come off and that's the part I'm trying to fix. You can also see that the hatch is surrounded by a teak border that I'm trying to retain.
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_2507.jpg  

Last edited by Pendragon35; 07-21-2016 at 11:50 PM. Reason: add photo
Pendragon35 is offline  
Reply

Tags
alberg35 , companionway , epoxy

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Companionway Hatch Donaldpeter Gear & Maintenance 6 06-26-2012 10:09 PM
Companionway hatch wmjr Pacific Seacraft 6 04-25-2012 10:35 AM
Companionway hatch for E-27? captainbrad Ericson 5 09-25-2011 10:46 PM
Companionway Hatch weephee Gear & Maintenance 8 04-25-2010 08:36 PM
Companionway Hatch drh1965 Newport 7 08-15-2008 03:14 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome