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Hello, All, I need to quit the slip at the marina and find me a place to anchor my 35 foot boat out, in the river. Plenty of places to do that, here in Cocoa, Florida. No laws in the way. Good stiff mud. When I anchor up with my 20 lb Danforth, to scrub the bottom, I can't hardly get it out of the mud. My question is, looking for advice on how to do that, anchor out permanently, I mean. Probably be in 6-7 feet of water. Seems to me, 2 anchors would be better. Thinking of buying a bigger Delta or Rocna and using chain and a snubber. Not sure where to get a snubber, but I read about you guys using them. Should I use 2 separate anchor lines? Or maybe 2 anchors on one line. Boat would be out there all year. Be a pain in the butt getting out to her, compared to walking down the dock at the marina. But, would be easier to go day sailing. Any advice would be appreciated. I'm just a sailor on a budget, and I could save 6 grand a year, by anchoring out. Then I could buy that wind vane, I'm lusting for, and be guilt free. Thanks for any advice. Kevin
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Re: Need to quit Marina and anchor out...

I don't know Florida laws, or norms, but could you just drop a mooring?

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I don't know Florida laws, or norms, but could you just drop a mooring?
Please don't encourage that. Too many anchorages on the east coast have been destroyed by squatters dropping moorings all over the place. Those are the people that are causing many Florida counties to make it difficult for all cruisers to anchor.

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Re: Need to quit Marina and anchor out...

I would set a Bahamian moor up and down current with 2 Danforth anchors and 3/8" chain to a swivel below the boat's bow. Then bring a 3/4" 3 strand nylon line from the swivel to the boat's bow, through a chock or over the anchor roller with good chafe gear. That should hold her, if the holding there is good, up to tropical storm strength winds, without too much trouble. You will need to wire all the shackles and inspect it monthly.
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I would set a Bahamian moor up and down current with 2 Danforth anchors and 3/8" chain to a swivel below the boat's bow. Then bring a 3/4" 3 strand nylon line from the swivel to the boat's bow, through a chock or over the anchor roller with good chafe gear. That should hold her, if the holding there is good, up to tropical storm strength winds, without too much trouble. You will need to wire all the shackles and inspect it monthly.
Cocoa is a busy anchorage for cruising boats. One boat on a Bahamian moor will ruin it for many others.

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Re: Need to quit Marina and anchor out...

Isn't our member "cdy" on a three point danforth setup in Cocoa? You might want to get in touch and ask about how it's working and whether it interferes with traffic. I was in Cocoa Village a few months ago and the waterfront was pretty banged up. Not sure where you even launch a dinghy to get to your anchorage.

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No doubt this is a bit of a controversial subject, with little proof of an obviously correct answer. Personally, I think I would opt for an oversized next-gen anchor (Rocna, MS, etc) that should reset itself. I worry that an unattended Bahamian or Three point anchor system would foul itself, if one leg broke free and didn't reset itself.

Next controversy is rode. Should a relatively permanent mooring system be rope or chain. Oh boy. I say chain, as it won't decay from UV, debris in the fibers, chafe, keel wrap, etc. Chain, of course, does not have a perpetual useful life either. Wait for the rope crowd.


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Re: Need to quit Marina and anchor out...

In this part of the world, most guys just pick up a clean engine block from the junk yard, usually a big block V8, attach a length of chain to the engine with a float on the other end and dump it overboard in a protected area. And, it's perfectly legal in Maryland. There is a 22 footer moored to an engine block in the Susquehanna River that has been there for 5 years. This guy shows up, dives in the river, climbs on the boat via a swim ladder and goes sailing. He goes home the same way. When he put the block on the bottom, he used a boom and a couple 4X4s across the gunwales of his dinghy. carefully put it on the boards, then rowed it out to the drop site, just rocked the dinghy, which caused the engine to slip over the side. He made it look easy, but I would not have tried it. Guess I'm getting old.

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Re: Need to quit Marina and anchor out...

I believe that the members of SailNet have been up this river before - last time on a '72 Pearson 36 (with svDistantStar). https://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...ly-sucked.html

Dropping a mooring (or an engine block - which is banned in most places) requires the prior approval of the harbormaster. And if you are looking to make your own mooring, we've been there too (with svDistantStar again!) https://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...t-mooring.html

I will also point out that @FloridaBoy 's insurance will likely go up if he were to move to a private mooring (b/c no one will be checking on the boat). The boat is insured - right? I am sure that you already know that insurance on your vessel is not only to protect you, but those around you (including homeowners and other boats).
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Re: Need to quit Marina and anchor out...

Why are you quitting the marina?
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