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Re: beathing apparatus for or bottom maintenaince

I have a 30 foot hose with a primary and 2nd stage regulator attached. Quick and easy way to clean the bottom with existing gear/ tanks...


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But, if memory serves, you are a tank diver and don't even have a hookah rig, so what's your point? Have you even used one?
I free dive - no tank nor hooka. I do keep a single tank on board for more demanding/emergency underwater boat work. Yes I have used hookas (although I fail to see why this matters to the discussion).

My point was that there are many reputable hooka manufacturers who offer hose lengths longer than 30', and that >30' lengths are not intrinsically unsafe or reckless. That was addressing your claims to the opposite. Having a 40'x21' boat, a 30' hose would be cumbersome, or unusable, for us. Many people have longer and wider boats than ours.

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So people seem to feel the hookah systems good for bottom cleaning?


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So people seem to feel the hookah systems good for bottom cleaning?


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Re: beathing apparatus for or bottom maintenaince

OP is a certified scuba diver but hasn't dived in a long while?

I was going to suggest just renting a tank and scuba gear, and forget the hookah stuff. That way you have a Buoyancy Compensator, ditchable weights in case of emergency, a compass just in case. You can be neutrally buoyant at whichever depth you're working.

I'm ignorant of hookahs, so maybe I'm missing something that's great about them. But I've cleaned a boat bottom in scuba gear, it worked out fine. And if perchance you drop something you need to retrieve, you can drop down and look for it.

And getting back into diving has advantages too, you're a mobile underwater creature, without a tether, and can enjoy the underwater world away from the marina silt and ablative paint clouds.

If OP has health problems which contradict diving, then I take back all I just said.
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I was going to suggest just renting a tank and scuba gear, and forget the hookah stuff. .
I've carried tanks and even compressors on sailboats and IMO they are more trouble than they are worth, especially for bottom cleaning. Tanks are hard to store, ding varnish and chip glass and need to be inspected periodically and certified, while compressors require quite a bit of maintenance and attention. If you don't have a compressor, then finding clean air can be a problem far from civilization. Renting tanks and transporting them back to the boat is just plain a PITA in many places (it's not like we have a car and taxis can be expensive). If you misplace your certification card, have fun trying to get your tanks filled!
Our electric hookah rig comes in a plastic box about the size of a 6 piece toaster. Obviously, the hoses take up a bit of space but take up no more space than a BC w/ regulator. We can achieve neutral buoyancy just fine with a couple of weights, which are considerably cheaper than a BC.
On a sunny day, we make more power than the hookah rig consumes, so it is basically free to operate, but even on a cloudy day, the 15 or so amps it consumes is not a problem to a 500+ amp battery bank. Mostly, we clean the bottom in around 15' of water on a sand bottom, so dropping things isn't much of a problem, and more often than not we have a fishy posse to encourage the removal of the growth on the bottom.
Like the OP, I no longer consider SCUBA diving to be something I am physically fit to do, so the hookah rig is the perfect compromise all the way around. I've done my time below 3 atmospheres, had a ball and now it is time to put my PADI divemaster's certification to rest.
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Re: beathing apparatus for or bottom maintenaince

I agree that if one isn't going to free-dive the boat for bottom cleaning, then a hookah is better than a tank. Get a long hose - it will make the job so much easier and less frustrating.

If one does use a tank, I don't see any need for a BC, compass, etc for bottom cleaning (if you need a compass, then you can afford to pay someone else to clean your bottom).

If one already has the tanks and compressor, then tanks are better than adding a hookah to the mix.

Renting a tank doesn't make much sense to me because one isn't sure when the bottom needs cleaning, and may not be in an area that rents tanks when the bottom does need cleaning. Depending on tank rental prices, one might be 50% into just hiring a guy to clean the bottom.

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Re: beathing apparatus for or bottom maintenaince

Hey,

Here is the rig I bought:
https://hookamax.com/products?olsPag...diving-systems


Hookamax E2005C-12V 1X100
$999.95$899.95

No relationship, just a satisfied owner, etc.

I split it with a friend. So, for under $500 I can clean the bottom whenever I want. Last year I paid a diver $100 / cleaning and I had the bottom done 4 times. So this thing will pay for itself is about 1 year.

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Re: beathing apparatus for or bottom maintenaince

I have been considering one of these for some time now, and would like your recommendations as to which single diver system YOU would buy and why;
Hookamax A2016C-12V 1X50 - Aluminum tank & 50 foot hose - $1100
SeaBreathe 130-DA - Anodized unit in an aluminum case w/ 30 foot hose - $1500
Brownie Sea Lion 2 diver X package (b/c they don't offer a single diver package) - $5500
Air Line 12V-E160 - 60 foot hose - $1500


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