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Our marina manager applies this “discussion” billing policy at his discretion. In this case, they had me over a barrel, or my season was over. Yes, he feels entitled. It’s that kind of logic that keep me from using them any more than I have to.


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Wow... guess it really depends on the yard. If I had been billed for minutes consulting with workers my last time in the yard it may have run into a couple of hours total. Is this really a common practice?
It isn't common practice to label it "discussion time". If your mechanic spends 8 hours in a day working on your boat, you are going to get billed for 8 hours even if he spent 4 of those talking to you. That is why it pays to be onsite when work is being done to make sure the two guys you are being billed for are working on "your" boat all day. Just don't distract them, it'll cost you. You can also save money by being their assistant, saving them labor time and learning something.

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I’ve wanted to install a wireless security camera aboard. Arlo makes one thatncistba few hundred bucks, plus a $20/mo cell subscription. The truth is, I would just like some way to know they’ve done work I can’t visually confirm. Amazing that they never send an email, only the bill a month later. You must call to ask if work has been completed.

Admittedly, it would be fascinating to see how they spend their time aboard. I know for this last job, they returned three times to collect their tools. There weren’t so many they couldn’t be taken at once, but it seemed he didn’t need them all. No question that was an inefficient use of time, but they have no motivation to be efficient. They charge by the hour.


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An auto repair shop I went to years ago had a sign on the wall which read something to the effect of 'You are welcome to chat with the mechanic as long as he is working on your car'.
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Don't think I ever got screwed.in 40 yrs. As a matter of fact there was limited opportunity. I hired a crane in "75 to lift my masts once and the last few years I actually had the hull pressure washed while in the slings during.annual haul out for CG. inspection. What a luxury and a deal until I found the by the foot included the bowsprit.But I got to live aboard on the hard and some use of the shop so it was OK.
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...What a luxury and a deal until I found the by the foot included the bowsprit.But I got to live aboard on the hard and some use of the shop so it was OK...
When I bought my current boat the yard where the seller had her stored came up with a quote for bottom paint. It seemed a little high vs. what I calculated from their posted rates, so I challenged them and they said that my Catalina 34 had measured at 38' long. I asked how that could be, and they said it's tip to tip. "But I've got an anchor on the roller sticking out beyond my bow, and empty davits sticking out the stern, and neither of those take any paint." They didn't care, they just said "That's how we do it for everyone, so it evens out in the end." I told them that 38' could not possibly be right, and demanded that they re-measure or the painting deal is off. While awaiting the re-measure, I took the anchor off the roller and stored it in the locker, and folded my davits sideways so they didn't overhang the transom. The measurement came back at 35' (Catalina 34 hull is actually 34'6", and bow pulpit sticks out another 6", so 35' is correct with the modifications that I made). This difference was significant, because their per-foot rate goes up (a lot) for boats over 35' (presumably because they are wider, so have more surface area per foot of length for larger boats). So between the shorter length and the lower cost per foot, the price I had to pay was 25% lower.

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Most per foot pricing in the marine industry is a rip off. I certainly understand when the labor or materials are variable. What really burns me is being charged for the LONGER of the side slip or my LOA.


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Back when I first paid moorage at federal docks in BC the rates were based on registered length. (perpendicular at stem to leading edge of rudder shaft. .02/ft/m.for fishing.v.) Very few private commercial marinas around but times change and now it's overall length ,extra for wide tris and cats and maybe $15/ft/m. Still,, must be cheap because few are opting out to free ontheanchor cruising in secluded inlets .Wonder if the attraction of fine restaurants and Netflicks affects the decision. Or maybe the mortgage, car payment and the inability to fix your own stuff .
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