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Re: teak decks - how much work are they really?

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There's a young couple of YouTube that recently got a steal on a HR35(?) and part of their massive overhaul including something like two weeks, pretty much full time, for both of them and another couple helping out, to remove the worn teak decking, some 8,000 screws, and then lay new decking on it. They used a plastic sheet product that "looks" like teak, for the replacement. Nice job, massive amount of work, including filling in the eight thousand screw holes.

A lot depends on how who maintained the decks, or not. These days it is more likely that a new deck would be glued down, so the leaking wouldn't be an issue. But your typical older boat? Yeah, 8000 screw holes.
...and a month after finishing the project in record time they completed a quick sale of the boat to a new owner.

I would have as dim a view of the plastic tops and one should have of the condition of the underlying decks.

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But the main reason is that when the times come to replace them at 20 to 30 years the cost is enormous. We are talking circa 1k $ US PER FOOT.
It should be noted that is not per foot of boat but per foot of PLANK.

I love the look of teak decks and I laid a flush teak deck on the first boat I built.

I would never have one again - work, rotting sub deck, work, cost, work, cost........
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The only problem with that approach is that I would have to buy one brand new...
If you are going to buy new, might as well consider a teak deck. It's the 20 year old teak decked boats you want to avoid. It seems like a problematic teak deck is similar a boat needing a new engine. It's going to cost you lots of money and time.

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Re: teak decks - how much work are they really?

All teak decks are not the same either. I believe that HR uses thick individual boards, which is the best way to go. If properly cared for, these decks can last 30 years, maybe more. Even when tired, the caulking can be reefed out and reapplied. The boards are thick enough to be surface sanded back to essentially new condition. This isnít cheap, but itís a small fraction of a new deck and much more accessible to DYI.

On the other hand, there are what I call teak paneling jobs (which my boat has). They are custom made sheets of thinner teak boards that are tongue and grove fit together, before they are laid on the deck. This is not to be confused with Teak Deck Systems, who will create an individual board pattern for your boat, already laid out on a backer, so it can be laid down in large sections. The version the Beneteau Group used/uses is less expensive and has little thickness for sanding. If I get around to replacing my deck, I will do it correctly and it will last the remainder of my sailing days.

Finally, if youíve ever been aboard an Amel, you might be surprised at the quality of totally fake teak. Itís enginnered into the side decks. Looks a bit plastic up close, but damn good from 10 feet away. Pretty sure itís nearly indestructible.


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Re: teak decks - how much work are they really?

It seems like some sort of intervention counseling would be cheaper and easier.

I'm always looking for a boat that requires less maintenance, never more.

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Re: teak decks - how much work are they really?

Treak decks are a thing of the past that some think they still need. on the wooden boats teak was the best thing to make a desk out of much better then fur of pine with the canvas cover and sand in the paint. then came fiber glass decks and it was so much better but some still seem to think that a deck should be teak. putting teak on the deck of a boat os just not needed and creates another big maintenance nightmare.
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Not sure I agree teak is antiquated. A wet teak deck feels much better under foot than most anything else. A good non-skid might be a bit stickier, but way more aggressive on your foot too. I also find non-skid sticks, until it doesnít, and you abruptly let go. Teak is more subtle and forces a better balance. There are also many versions of non-skid patterns I wouldnít trade for an ice rink.


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Teak deck has lots of holes that leak eventually...
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Re: teak decks - how much work are they really?

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Teak deck has lots of holes that leak eventually...
I believe that the original poster was asking about Hallberg Rassey which uses a glue down system which doesn't require a lot of holes. The issue with that system as it was explained to me is that they only use 10 mm planks. That works okay in a Northern climate where boats are out of service part of the year, in normal use real teak erodes between 1/16 and 3/32 per decade and so I would be concerned about having enough depth to allow the seam caulk to remain properly adhered.

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Re: teak decks - how much work are they really?

Been told Amel decking product is secret. Does anyone know anything about it? Of the synthetics Iíve seen whatís on this years Zlanders looks the best to my eye. Does anyone know what it is?
Weíre in the tropics part of the year. Know from visiting others boats teak and colored hulls definitely make boats hotter. Embrace your white chlorox bottle. Glad we specíd our non skid the lightest tan color we could find.
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